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Re: WTB: 1937 120C Front Suspension
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Hi -
Thanks for the torque arms. I was able to finesse it all apart.
Would you happen to have spindles available or know of someone who might?
Thanks!
Don

Posted on: 2024/10/27 11:49
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WTB: 1937 120C Front Suspension
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Hi -
I am looking for front suspension parts for a 1937 120C. Primarily interested in torque arm, lower control arm and wheel support for both the Left and Right sides.
Thanks!
Don

Posted on: 2024/10/8 10:10
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Re: 37 120 king Pins
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I did manage to resolve this. Old cars tell no lies.
The drivers side wheel support inner diameter was measuring at 0.872"
The passenger side wheel support inner diameter measured at 0.867"
The stock kingpin set measured 0.862".
I found a reference that Packard sold kingpins in .005" and .010" oversize. So I suspect that this car is a bit unique in that the left and right wheel supports were different sizes.

What I managed to find was an old Moog cross reference with each kingpin diameter. So I found kingpins to fit the unique diameters. With an old Bluepoint adjustable reamer I was able to size the bushings to make a nice fit.

I hope this helps someone along the way.


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Posted on: 2024/10/8 9:51
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Re: 37 120 king Pins
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Yeah the issue is the wheel support is oversize at 0.867". The spindle bushings are fine, but there aren't any bushings in the wheel support.

If there isn't a source for 0.867" kingpins then I might have to disassemble the wheel support and have bushings fitted in the wheel support for the 0.862" pins.

Posted on: 2024/9/25 19:46
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Re: 37 120 king Pins
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Does anyone know where I can get some of the 0.867", 0.005" oversize kingpins?
Max Merritt didn't seem to know much about what they had.

Thanks

Posted on: 2024/9/25 17:43
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Re: 37 120 king Pins
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So here is what I have found. The kingpin measures .862 as would make sense. Maybe the alignment of the kingpin through the spindle isn't the greatest. May be the spindle is tweaked. However, the hole in the wheel support measures between .865 and .866. I'm guessing somewhere along the line the standard pins were fit but no one really checked? This car was nicely cosmetically restored years ago, but not mechanically restored. I have been through a number of the subsystems that needed attention. So I'm assuming an oversight at some point in the past.

So I'm looking for .867 pins and ream/hone to size?

Posted on: 2024/9/18 14:33
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Re: Packard Service Procedures
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LOL. Well Mr. Flackmaster my customer has been driving his Packard and enjoying it!
I did get the heat riser business resolved and working nicely.

But this kingpin business I'm now trying to solve is a real stinker.

Thanks for the help. I really do appreciate it.

Posted on: 2024/9/18 8:56
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Re: 37 120 king Pins
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I'm encountering a similar issue with a 1937 120C. The kingpins are tight in the spindle bushings, but there is play in what Packard seems to call the wheel support. I think its the same as what has been referred to as the steering knuckle. I see it as the upright that the spindle attaches to.

Any idea if I can use an oversize kingpin to match the wear in the support/knuckle/upright? Then ream the spindle bushings to match?

Posted on: 2024/9/17 20:12
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Packard Service Procedures
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Hello. I'm fairly new to Packards. I'm currently working on a 1937 model 120C. I notice that there don't seem to be many service procedures available. I have the skinny 1937 Shop Manual, but it really just has the basic info and not the service procedures like I'm accustomed to with my 50s and 60s cars.

What do you most of you do when restoring or working on your car?

Thanks
Don

Posted on: 2024/9/17 20:02
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Re: 1937 120C Overheating Carb
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Good news from my road test. The engine was much more responsive without boiling the fuel in the carb.

It took much longer for the engine to warm up, but once it did it ran fine without issue.

Thanks to flackmaster for the help...

Posted on: 2018/9/2 8:37
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