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Re: 1956 400 Ultramatic Transmission Questions
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Here is the final version.

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Re: Packard Decoder
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Bob Neal and I spent many hours going over our combined data with respect to the renumbered cars. IMO there are just too many unknowns and gaps in our knowledge to reduce our understanding of it to a firm set of rules.

Before his passing, Bob did write further on the subject and I believe those articles are scheduled for future publication in The Cormorant. But there is still a lot missing from our understanding.

Posted on: 2/22 15:29
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Re: 2122 Clipper ID question.
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Just to round out the picture for Packard as they referred to it on their identification plates, they never called it a vehicle identification number or a serial number. From 1900 thru about 1919, the ID plate captioned it as simply "Number". From then thru 1953 the space was captioned "Vehicle Number". From 1954 thru 1956 there was no descriptor given to the number.

Posted on: 2/20 17:13
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Re: 1955 Constellation / Tires
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Unless you specifically want a more modern low profile look, I think a more appropriate radial replacement for the factory 7.60-15 would be a P225/75R15.

Posted on: 2/20 15:16
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Re: Starting Serial Numbers
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It appears to be correct though the 11th Series Eight car line had 2 5-passenger sedans, and 1100 and an 1101 (body type 713) on a slightly longer wheelbase, not sure which one the photo is.

Posted on: 2/19 18:37
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Re: Starting Serial Numbers
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As noted previously in this thread, the 9th Series (1932) was the first to used the new body type- production number format from the get-go. Some late 8th Series apparently were also so numbered.

Posted on: 2/19 16:57
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Re: Starting Serial Numbers
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Vehicle number space is stamped "703 579", 703 corresponds to a 1934 Eight 1100 which only was available as a 5-passenger sedan. 579 is my sequential number.

"BKLYN" for Packard Brooklyn and the date of delivery completes the information in the remaining two spaces. Curiously each stamped in the wrong position as is often seen with Brooklyn plates of the era. Packard Brooklyn on Atlantic Avenue was a factory branch under Packard New York.

Prior to the body type plus production sequence number method of vehicle numbers, you cannot determine model and body type from the VN. Occasionally right-hand drive models are distinguished by an "R" suffix.

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Posted on: 2/19 12:52
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Re: Starting Serial Numbers
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There is an excellent limited distribution publication which details the various patent and vehicle number plates used by Packard between 1900 and 1956. As of a few months ago there is now a display at the Proving Grounds of each of the plate types and styles. The publication has no info on the numbering or plates of the Studebaker-based Packards of 1957-1958, nor am I particularly familiar with them.

My 1934 has what is known as a style "O" plate, 3-1/4 x 4-1/2 etched brass, black and nickel plate, with text citing ".....more than eleven hundred U. S. Patents.... It was in use for the 10th Series and part way thru the 11th, then replace by the very similar type "P" plate which was in used partly thru the 12th Series. Type P added an extra blank to enter the city of sale, and still referenced the same number of patents.

Posted on: 2/19 12:08
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Re: Starting Serial Numbers
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This nice little chart is from an old Packard Club Membership Directory, not sure it's still in the current versions. The vehicle numbering system (not serial number) that utilized the sequential number component fully began with the 9th Series and may have includes some of the last 8th Series. There may be a bit of an open question concerning whether Canadian production numbering always followed this.

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Posted on: 2/19 10:33
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Re: Packard boat tail
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My friend Adam in England was unable to provide any information on the car ownership from the license plate, but did provide this information which perhaps will prove useful in dating the coachwork change:

The owner in the 1930s appears to have been a motor racing enthusiast (like me). The car is pictured in the car parks at Donington Park, Leicestershire ( a Grand Prix was held there in 1937) and also at Brooklands (Surrey), you can see the test hill in the background. The Brooklands picture shows the closed body, so is presumably more recent, however Brooklands closed in 1939 and never reopened after the second world war so the photos must have been taken within a year or two of each other.

Posted on: 2/15 12:11
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