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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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Howard, thank you for that information! I did a little more digging and it appears that the R11 has the ability to automatically lock out the O/D once shifted into reverse. I also check with some transmission guys and they suggest I install the clutch onto the input shaft to turn the trans. it worked and everything works the way it should! I am happy.

Shifting gears I went back to my folk's place and was able to strip the paint off of the firewall to get it ready for paint. Came out well! was a dirty and hot process but it got done. I also removed the firewall insulation on the interior side of the firewall. I am not to sure if anyone makes this, but I am sure I could probably source the material Does anyone know where? Or, would modern day foam insulation have a better R value that would provide better insulation from the engine heat?

I dug the carb out of the parts pile to get the thing rebuilt. I hope to get to that in the next couple months.

I am looking into doing something similar to the A/C that Howard did but to use a core from another modern car. In that process I was looking at the parts I got with the car and noticed I only have what appears to be the A/C blower housing, but not the blower that gets mounted to the drives side of the firewall... Thats problematic. I may have to source that if I cant find that in the Packard Shed.

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Posted on: 6/7 12:31
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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This summer is winding up to be a busy one but some decent progress so far:

the dash pad is back. So the dash is now awaiting reassembly.

Engine has been looked over, given the Olds pump, and a clean bill of health, Thanks Ross!

Ross also rebuilt the BTV so that will be ready to be installed in the car once I get to that point.

Ross was also able to get me new front door glass!

The 3 speed o/d T85/R11 transmission has been reassembled with new seals from Vanpelt sales. all other components on the inside looked okay.

However, when the transmission is laying on its passenger side and without the solenoid installed I guess the lever goes in and locks the over drive unit and in the process locks the entire transmission up. Is this suppose to happen? or does the solenoid not allow that lever to go all the way in and lock the transmission up like that?

Posted on: 5/24 11:14
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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This past weekend my schedule opened up a bit and I was able to do more stuff to the Patrician.

I started the polishing of the gold mesh. I was going back and forth on if I wanted to recoat it or what to do, but I used this polish from Autosol that is called anodized aluminum polish. Did a really good job! If you look just below the red line in the picture, that is where I didnt do it yet and the areas closer to the camera is where I did. Its not really noticeable head on, but it definitely makes a difference when viewed at an angle. I did the gold twice so far. I am thinking of one more coat of polish and I should be ready to start assembling the dash board. The pad is suppose to be here in the next week or so.

I also got the seals and small parts ordered for the T85/R11 trans. So hopefully they come in soon so I can start working on that!

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Posted on: 4/19 14:08
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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This past weekend was more work on cleaning the transmission. I got the reverse idler out of the trans case and got the case cleaned. I got the over drive housing cleaned as well. Last thing is to separate the tail shaft from the housing, looks like I am going to have to damage that plug to get it out of there.

I also got the column assembled! forgot partially how it went together, so it took a little time getting it back together, but I think it came out very well!

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Posted on: 3/17 14:04
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56 Packard 3 Speed O/D Transmission Disassembly
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Hello,

I am restoring a 56 Packard Patrician that had the 3 speed o/d swapped in. I am keeping the transmission and decided to tear it down for inspection. One thing I noticed is the gear that slides between first and reverse has a couple chipped gear teeth and the mating gear on the counter shaft has a similar issue. Is this going to be a problem?

I am also having trouble removing the tail shaft from the tail shaft housing. According to the Service manual I have to remove the welch plug to get to the snap ring that holds the bearing in place. How do I get the welch plug out? Do I have to damage it to remove it? can I get a replacement?

The rest of the trans looks good, the bearings look good, overdrive looks good. Everything just has a lot of carbon build up on it.

Posted on: 3/11 9:23
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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Quote:

Let the ride decide wrote:
https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/downloads/partslist5556/TOC.pdf

Page XIII
V is the code for Corsican black.
Just curious if that matches the code on your data plate on the driver side door post.
I have seen the car number as other things on the firewall.

Your transmission, I was wanting to update that list if you have a transmission that is not on there.
Thanks


Yes V is on the data plate, it was an original all black car.

Posted on: 3/1 14:09
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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Quote:

Let the ride decide wrote:
Carfreak,
I see in the picture of your firewall there is a ā€œVā€.
Is your paint code V?
Do you see any other letters or numbers like the ā€œVā€ in the picture?

Does your standard transmission case have any markings cast or stamped on it?
For reference:
https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/mod ... &order=ASC&status=&mode=0


I believe the paint codes are stamped onto the VIN plate in the drivers door jam. I am not to sure what the "V" pertains too.

thank you for that reference, but didnt see any transmissions in that post that match mine. thanks anyway!

Posted on: 3/1 11:45
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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I am finally wrapping up the winter work on the truck so that I can start to turn my attention to parts for the patrician. First up was the 3 speed O/D transmission:

Disassembly went fairly easy. I still need to remove the reverse idler gear (need to get a tool for that since I cant get enough swing for the hammer) and the tail shaft out of the tail shaft housing. According to the manual I have to hammer out the Welsh plug to get to the snap ring. Never heard of a Welsh plug, but upon some research it is similar to a freeze plug in an engine block. From videos I seen online they are suppose to just hammer out. Well I could not get that to work, so before I broke anything that would be impossible to find I figured I would present the question here. Does anyone know how to get the welsh plug out so I can remove the shaft from the housing?

Figured out why I was not able to shift the 2-3 lever. The lever was froze into the trans cover. Was able to tap it out and clean it out. now it goes in and moves freely, so that problem figured out. Did see that the gear that slides between reverse and first gear is chipped as well as the gear that it mates with on the counter shaft... So I have to see if I can get replacements for them. Other than those two issues everything on the trans side looked okay. The O/D side of things looked good just really, really dirty. So I will put all the small parts through the ultra sonic cleaner and give the cases a good wash out.

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Posted on: 3/1 9:40
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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I found a company that makes the brake lines for these vehicles:

https://classictube.com/product/packar ... 127-wheelbase-19551956-2/

anyone try them before?

Posted on: 2/9 8:20
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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So it has been awhile, but I was able to get some work done to the patrician this go around.

I put the rear end of the car up in the air to start getting the underside painted. Always hated this part. But only tried to get the bare metal painted. Skipped the rear end since I need to heavily degrease that, and it has to get new bushings on it as well. So when that happens would probably be a good time to get that painted.

I started to sand the firewall as well. I was informed by a body guy that in order to get a decent paint job done with base-clear coat that all the lacquer paint should be removed. Following the current by hand method If I were to do the firewall, door jams and trunk jam, it would take me all year given the amount of time I am currently able to dedicate to this at it present location. So I think I came up with a better way to get those areas stripped of paint.

Given the goal of the project. I would like to get the car to the moving under its own power phase so that I can bring it out to Pittsburgh to dedicate more time to it. So stay tuned.

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Posted on: 2/8 9:42
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