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Re: Assessment of 1955 Packard Caribbean via Artificial Intelligence.
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ZeroCool
Lol, after further questioning, the engine recanted most of what it claimed as fact.

I know that if you want to know, ask the man who owns one.

Posted on: 3/26 18:19
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Assessment of 1955 Packard Caribbean via Artificial Intelligence.
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ZeroCool
Hey,

I was goofing with one of the artificial intelligent engines and was asking somewhat random questions. I probed it on different topics that I was interested in.

Since I have a 1955 Packard Caribbean I asked it what it knows on the car. It brought up the facts about production numbers for 1955 and stated that there were only 36 produced. I have read at multiple sites/places that the production was 500 units (maybe 499). Even this site states Total Production: 500.

Here is what it had to say in 'summary'... Does anyone agree or disagree with this summary?

Quote:
let me summarize the key points about its production numbers and current value:

Production Numbers:

- All authoritative sources and Packard's own factory records indicate only 36 examples
of the 1955 Caribbean convertible were produced before Packard went out of business.
- This makes it one of the lowest production classic American cars from the 1950s and
a big reason why surviving examples are so valuable today.

Current Value:

- For a 1955 Packard Caribbean in excellent, fully restored condition, values can range
from $500,000 to over $1 million at auction for the finest examples.
- More typical pricing for a drivable, well-restored 1955 Caribbean is $300,000 to $600,000
depending on specifics of its condition, documentation, options, etc.
- Even project-condition cars that need full restoration can sell for $100,000+ just based
on the model's rarity and desirability.

As the owner of an authenticated 1955 Caribbean, your car is an extremely rare and valuable
piece of American automotive history and craftsmanship. The combination of its unique design,
powerful engine, and surviving production run of just 36 units is what drives the high valuations
today among collectors.

Please let me know if you need any other specific details related to your 1955 Packard Caribbean's
production data or current valuation based on its condition and spec. As an owner, you
possess an automotive prize.


I asked about its sources for the production numbers and it sited these references...

Quote:

You're right to ask for the specific source on the "Packard factory literature and documentation"
that I referenced regarding the 1955 Caribbean production numbers. Let me provide those details:

The primary factory source is the Packard Information Manual published by the Packard Motor Car
Company in the 1950s. Excerpts from the 1955 model year manual state:

"Caribbean convertible model production: 36 units"

This official document from Packard themselves lists the 1955 Caribbean convertible production run
as just 36 cars.

Additionally, the Packard factory's own internal build records and serial number tracking, as compiled
by historians and clubs like the Packard Automobile Classics club, only show 36 distinct 1955 Caribbean
serial numbers assigned.

These factory production documents and serialization records have been extensively cited in
publications like:

1. "The Packard Library" by Richard M. Michels and Ralph W. Morris (1999)
2. "Packard: The Complete Story" by Beverly Rae Kimes (1978)
3. Historical periodicals from the Packard Club and other Packard experts

So in summary, the definitive source showing the 36-unit 1955 number comes directly from Packard's own
official model year literature and their internal build logs from the factory in that era. Let me know
if you need any additional details on these primary sources.


Please Let me know your thoughts.

Posted on: 3/26 16:26
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What does this look like?
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ZeroCool
Does the automobile in the lower left corner of this photo look like a 1955 Packard Caribbean Convertible?

I don't know where the original photo or the 'first scanned' digital file is located. I have seen various versions on the web.

I do know that this photo is of the 1956 Pegasus parade on Broadway in Louisville Ky.

The photo could have been taken from a upper window of the Brown Hotel at 4th and broadway, or maybe the courthouse top floor at 7th street looking west. But most likely if could have been taken from the top of the Courier Journal building.

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Posted on: 2021/10/30 20:57
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Re: Painting Wheel Wells on a 1955
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ZeroCool
Black/white is entirely up to you. Here are a few pictures of the wheel wells of my 55 Caribbean. They are dirty but look like they are jade white.

You be the judge.

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Posted on: 2021/10/30 18:08
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Re: 1955 Caribbean carpet photo
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ZeroCool
West, you can see that some of my carpet is worn and pretty bad. I am planning on removing the seats and removing the carpet for an out of car cleaning.

cleaning, cleaning, cleaning...

But in the event of it falling apart or not coming close to acceptable, I had searched for a vendor that has replacement material.

I found this company (StockInteriors) who I was going to give a shot.

Has anyone else here used these folks?

They claim to have proper patterns and their "Cut and Sewn carpets are made from OE Quality materials and are made to look and fit like the original Packard Full Size Cars".

I would love to believe their claim. I am considering them if the original carpet is too far gone.

-ZeroCool

Posted on: 2021/4/24 1:37
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Re: 1955 Caribbean carpet photo
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ZeroCool
West,

You requested some additional images of my carpet in my project blog thread. (thread post)

Here is a link to a google album where there is a dump of images. I put a little bit of description to keep things orientated, most are obvious.

Google Album - 55 Caribbean carpet photos (please excuse the dirt)

Hope this is helpful. I apologize for the image lighting. My cell phone is made from potatoes.

Posted on: 2021/4/22 22:41
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Re: Great Uncle Larry's 1955 Caribbean 5588 MDF 92
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ZeroCool
Thanks LTRD,

Now I have a good idea of what I am looking for.

-zeroCool

Posted on: 2020/12/9 10:03
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Re: Great Uncle Larry's 1955 Caribbean 5588 MDF 92
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ZeroCool
Ok,

So part of the 0.3% missing is the glovebox lock. But I also see now, that the components (10.03197 and 10.03193) on the inside of the door are missing. (10.03193) Anyone have a detailed picture of what the "RETAINER-GLOVE BOX DOOR LOCK" looks like?

Also the gas/fuel cap is missing. So the 99.7% is bumping down a point to 99.6%. I guess I'll keep a running count.

-zeroCool

Posted on: 2020/12/8 13:07
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Re: Great Uncle Larry's 1955 Caribbean 5588 MDF 92
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ZeroCool
This license plate frame is from the dealership in Louisville where Great Uncle Larry purchased the car. It was not attached to the Caribbean. It was mounted on something because there are screw marks on it. This was found in the first garage that it was stored in.

-zeroCool

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Posted on: 2020/12/4 22:07
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Re: Great Uncle Larry's 1955 Caribbean 5588 MDF 92
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ZeroCool
I added two other images of the 'cover' to my previous post.

...and yes my Great Uncle Larry was a smoker. It was the 50s. Even doctors smoked during office visits.

The ash tray still has a few cigarette butts and a wrapper from a piece of promotional stick candy for his brick yard, West Point Brick Co. Maybe I'll see if I can lift some DNA and clone Uncle Larry. I was just 7 when he passed. Still miss visits with him.

The trunk had a partial pack of Pall Mall cigarettes, but a field mouse 🐁 had part of it for a snack. That ended up in the trash can as the trunk was vacuumed out.

-zeroCool

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Posted on: 2020/12/4 11:36
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