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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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OK, had a chance to take a closer look at the post/photos. So if I understand, the part 5 and the gasket are all that holds the glass section is, is that correct? Everything else is for trim. I think I have outside that covers #5 but don't think I have anything for the inside.

Posted on: 4/3 18:11
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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When I was a kid there must have been 20-30 bone yards in the Salt Lake Valley. Now 2, lost Bonneville Drag (RMR) strip a couple years ago, given time they will shut down Speed Week at the salt flats. This state is becoming anti car, just passed IM test for vintage plates.So ordering parts is the price I need to pay to enjoy the hobby. Just wish some of the other yards were not so flaky, calls and emails to DVAP and Big M, no response. To be honest, based on the TV show, was not expecting too much for DVAP.

Posted on: 4/2 23:40
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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53 Cavalier wrote:
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DMFlints wrote:
OK, so in my parts for the car I have a bent flat metal with clips attached. I assumed that was the lower bracket for the gasket, it seems to fit but may have been bent. I don't yet have the gasket. But in the photos it looks like they are individual clips. I will grab a photo of what I have next time I am at the storage unit. Thanks.


Do you mean "bent flat metal with clips attached" like #5 and #1 in the below picture? This picture shows what is needed for hardware for my '53 and I suspect yours would be the same.

#1 are the clips that hook into the body and the bottom stainless trim bolts through to. (If the clips are not hooked into the body the exterior trim won't stay in the correct position.)
#2 are the speed nuts that hold on the stainless steel trim piece that goes in the corner right by the back door. Yours may have "400" on it.
#3 these slide into the stainless steel trim and go through to the clips that hook into the body. The little bolts on these are a one time use, that is they are long for assembly and then cut off so the interior trim will fit. The originals are a soft material that are easy to cut. I thought I was being smart and used SS bolts that wouldn't rust, but had to buy a baby set of bolt cutters to nip them off because they were so hard. Before the final install of the stainless steel trim you want to put some butyl, aka dumdum, to seal where the bolts penetrate the window gasket.
#4 are the 8 screws that secure #5 to the chrome trim between the window sections. (I think the 3 little screws are for the upholstery.)
#5 these fit into the gasket between the 3 window sections.

You'll notice that there are 9-#3 but only 7-#1. The very left and right #3 do not use a clip, they use a flat rectangular sort of washer which you can see between the clips and the round washers in the picture.

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These little clips need to hook into the body. I had one that bolted the little chrome feature at the bottom of one of the vertical pieces that did not have the holes in the correct place and was not hooked in and it allowed that little piece to sit crooked.
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Be sure not to overtighten things as it will distort your exterior trim. Also if it's a bit warmer when you're working on this that will be helpful it will make the seal softer.


Dang work, trying to find a way to get paid and have nothing but free time. That is a huge help. The only part I have is #5. Looks like I need to try to find the rest, bolts should be easy, and I can fabricate if I need to. The side glass arrived today and the center section is on its way. Anyone know of anyone with the parts? Thanks for all the help everyone. Actually starting to remember how to use a forum, been a while.

Posted on: 4/2 19:07
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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OK, so in my parts for the car I have a bent flat metal with clips attached. I assumed that was the lower bracket for the gasket, it seems to fit but may have been bent. I don't yet have the gasket. But in the photos it looks like they are individual clips. I will grab a photo of what I have next time I am at the storage unit. Thanks.

Posted on: 3/28 15:44
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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OK, I think I got my head around it. It looks like there are vertical brackets on the inside that locks the gasket in place. Another part to find but at least I know what to look for. Thanks for everyone's help.

Posted on: 3/27 18:56
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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Packard Don wrote:
There are no mounting brackets that I recall. The glass is held in by the rubber with a decorative trim inside and out. You can see my listing for the ones I have here But I’m not there at the moment to be able to take any measurements.


The factory service manual arrived today, not great pictures but it seems to indicate that there is something on the inside of the window that holds everything together. The outside molding is for decoration. I may just fab something up. I wonder if they do fit the 51 but only the 300-400. Just cant think of a reason they would be different. The research continues.

Posted on: 3/27 16:28
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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Packard Don wrote:
I have a pair of the Solex wrap-around corner pieces at my Oregon shop but unfortunately they are 1952-1953. According the parts book, they are different for 1951 but not sure what the differences are.


I wouldn't think the body would be changed. A change in the mounting bracket or trim? I think I have the trim but not a frame, not even sure what it looks like. I would think an inside and outside frame.

Posted on: 3/27 11:16
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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Will do, thanks

Posted on: 3/26 17:59
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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Yes, but ya got to do what you got to do. So as close to Ut as possible.

Posted on: 3/26 17:58
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Re: 51 3pc rear window with frame
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Yes, but ya got to do what you got to do. So as close to Ut as possible.

Posted on: 3/26 17:58
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