Yes the whole situation was and is so sad. Regarding the specifics you wanted, probably not happening. I do remember that the rod shop was trying to sell the engine as it had no value to them. They also were having a tough time finding replacement rear fenders as it was a unique style for Packard.

As being a business limo, I do remember Rick saying decisively that it was a business limo. Something about leather in one section, non-leather in the other. About the trim and ashtrays and such, I'm clueless. I don't think I have any interior photos, but do have a few exterior shots.

If you search this website about Packards in the movies, check out the movie "The Natural" starring Robert Redford. I posted pixs of Rick's car twice in the movie. Once in front of a big hotel and also a street scene. FYI, the movie was filmed in nearby Buffalo and Rick like me auditioned and made the movie. I was also chosen but never was in the movie. Darn...The Natural time theme was in 1939.

I have the low down on that '37 limo in Victor, NY you were trying to track down.

Sadly the owner Rick Tice, a good friend of mine, died about five years ago. His health just gave out. Prior to his death we would do "old cars" together as I live 15 minutes from him. I drove his business limo often. I own a '38 Eight 4 door touring sedan. Before he died, knowing his health was taking a turn for the worse, he tried real hard to sell me that car. I declined. After he passed his sister again tried to sell me that car. I said thanks but no thanks.

Fast forward a year and I heard that the local hot rod shop in Victor was tearing it apart and rodding it. I went and looked at it in the beginning stages and half of me cried the other half was glad I was not doing that job. Major rot of the wooden parts, bad rust and the likes. Honestly a mess. Well over a $100K project. Big block motor, interior, paint etc. I have not seen or heard of the finished project since the Covid thing but I will look into it soon.

I miss you Rick and our Packard days. RIP good buddy and your old car too.

My buddy Rick Tice had posted a few years ago that he drove his '37 Super 8 Business Limo in the movie "The Natural" that was filmed in Buffalo, NY about 1983. Just wanted to resubmit that info and a few photos of those scenes. His car was in a few shots but the best was when he was parked awaiting the two stars to get in and drive off from the hotel they were staying at. That's Rick driving!
I too auditioned for the movie with my '38 Eight. Made the first cut but was never called to the shoot.

Sorry to add to this story but Rick passed away a few years ago. His medical issues finally took over and his prized car was sold to a new owner who is resto-rodding or full hot rodding it. A shame as it was a fairly rare model, the business limo. His wife offered it to me to buy but my stable is full.

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I too had a similar issue with my '38 Eight. Not to the extent you have but the fuel in my Carter fuel filter clear glass bulb would be boiling when I checked the engine after shut down. The filter is located a few inches from the carb and over top of the manifolds. Not sure if the carb was "hot" but the filter surely was. My fix, a simple thick sheet metal baffle between the exhaust manifold and the glass filter. I used the head bolts to attach it. Worked perfect. Plus I would think about some insulation around the fuel line in that general area, the type street rods use.

My thoughts are that the carb might be getting hot because hot fuel is entering into it. Since the heat riser is not the issue, I thought too as that was the problem, maybe this baffle and insulation won't hurt. Good luck.

I broke the internal gearing on my passenger front window regulator. So now the search starts. Contacted "Regulator Roy" as a first look. He has something close. Need to cut and weld for a fit. Now I'm asking if anyone has experience with him? Plus just about to call Max M. and Kantor too. Any other vendors come to your mind? Of course I'm looking for an exact replacement. The car is a '38, 4 door touring sedan, model 1601, 1192 body style with typical window regulators.

Thanks to all.

Hello,

I too have a '38 Eight (120) with an all original engine. Yes that hole you mention is for that small pipe. The description written is spot on. Mine rarely drips fuel from the check valve end. Usually during start ups with short run times. I still keep an eye on it by leaving a little kitty litter or sand under that specific area to absorb the one drip... Love my '38 Eight.... PS. Hope you are in the registry.

David

Did anyone catch the Packard next to the '48 Tucker on this week's edition of Jay Leno's Garage? Jay was visiting car nut Francis Ford Coppola. The car was only on camera for a quick shot but it sure got my attention. Not sure but it looked a little like the front of my '38... Any help about this car? Loved those Tuckers too.
DJ

I too purchased a pair of running board covers from Don Lampen for my '38 Eight 4 door sedan last year. There was a wait time for their build but it was worth it. Even though they were a little pricey, the quality is there. Don "Fed Exed" them to me with no issues. I have not put them on the car but it is on the top of my "next" list.

David J

Well thanks to all that wrote in... As usual, I over thought the issue. That's typical for me! I should have figured this out myself, oh well.

This morning I set the octane adjuster at zero, set #1 at TDC, loosened the base plate then rotated the distributer about one cam lobe CCW and readjusted the wires to their new home position... Retimed number one and rechecked dwell. Easily got the engine to specs. Awesome. The only issues are the new position of the distributer places the grease cup almost against the block. Also I had to cut the solid vacuum advance tube because it wouldn't reach the diaphragm in its new position. Simple rubber vacuum line solved that easily.

I now have better mid to high rpm power and real decent acceleration.

Again thanks for the help.

I owe you all a beer.

David

Thanks for helping.
The plug wires are totally correct in their position. Have done the one spot out of order before... Know all about that. Quite embarrassing too. That's a different story for another post.

The engine starts okay, runs fairly well and the firing order is totally on. No doubt on that one.

What experience do you have regarding the timing of the oil pump gears?

What do you mean by "timing read adjustment"? The timing light I am using is the typical inductance style that I have used many times before.

David