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Re: oil pump install/timing issues on 1601 Eight
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Hi David,
I am thinking out loud here, but perhaps the wires are one position off on the cap? Also, are you using a timing light with any kind of timing read adjustment? I know it sounds odd, but from your post you have all the bases covered, and you should be able to time the engine per specs otherwise.

I have a 37 120, and I will gladly take pictures of distributor or wires if it is applicable to your situation.

Please let us know how it turns out.

Rich

Posted on: 2015/4/21 20:03
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Re: Completed Alternator 6V + conversion
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Hi Tim,
I will look into the voltage drop testing that you suggested. Thanks! I know that we did ground everything with the pigtails that you mentioned. At least the headlights and Trippe lights are. I will double check that.

I do agree with you on the generator being a great source of power for the vehicle. The one that I have did a fine job of producing electricity. My decision making process was centered more around how the vehicle would be used and how it is equipped.

I really don't drive it on the open road that much, more to shows, and parades etc...There is a lot of idling and slow crawling during this activity. Therefore the idea of revving the engine to get the amps up is a bad one. I also have a Carter Electric Fuel pump that helps keep things running when the engine bay gets hot. As everyone knows, vapor lock is not your friend, and the Carter does a nice job of keeping the fuel moving.

So after a day of that, and a drive home at night with headlights, my poor battery was struggling to stay charged, and the generator was working as was the regulator.

I will post some pix when I get a chance.

Cheers!

Rich

Posted on: 2014/6/26 14:56
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Re: Completed Alternator 6V + conversion
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HH56,
I am not really well versed on other Packards. This was my father's and he grew up with these cars, and was what I consider an expert. Unfortunately for me, I am not. I am still learning how to work on this one. I read a lot of books and websites to pick up as much info as I can. In my online research and with the belts that I had to work with. I discovered Napa has a belt that they offer.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Belt-Accessory-Drive/_/R-NBG2524438_0201601186

I had one of the Napa belts and it was a bit smaller so I used another spare that was left to me. It is exactly .75" wide at the top and (guessing here) about .5" at the bottom. It does not have cogs like the Napa one does.

It fit the pulley like a glove. When I ordered the alternator, I followed up with a phone call to confirm that they put the .75" pulley on the unit. It came installed and was fine out of the box.

I hope this is helpful...

Rich

Posted on: 2014/6/26 13:51
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Completed Alternator 6V + conversion
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After a lot of research, pros and cons, dos and don'ts I managed to successfully upgrade to a 6v+ ground alternator on my 37 120. I can honestly say that is was well worth the trouble. The ammeter shows a significant amount of juice being created at all rpm's including that wonderful low idle that the 8 is famous for.

I splurged and got the PowerGen 82056 model that looks similar to the generator. I had them at Quality Power put the .75" pulley on it and I used the OEM bracket to mount it.

http://www.qualitypower.co/item/Powermaster_82116_and_82056/293/c40

A few things to consider.

1. This unit is a bit bigger than the generator, so it takes a little bit of effort to get the unit aligned properly, and the distributor with the vacuum advance (at least in my case), is very close to the back of the alternator.

2. Alignment is key, the pullies will align with some shims in the OEM bracket. I used a small steel sleeve and a washer or two to get the alignment right. It was a bit tricky with the distributor so close, but it worked out.

3. Be sure to ground the alternator with a wire. This is what the Manufacturer recommends, so I did so.

4. The unit has a solid state regulator built in, so I spliced the Bat and Arm wires together at the regulator. I am working on making this integration more subtle as I am keeping the regulator to look more original.

5. The swing bracket that I had for the generator was too short, so I bought a universal alternator bracket for 11.99 at Pep Boys (chrome, but I painted it) that was way too long. I cut it down to about 9" or so, and the drilled a hole to mount it on the engine. It worked quite well.

This unit does exactly what the advertisement says, it creates a lot of amperage. My lights are brighter and when I turn them on the ammeter only bumps for split second and them right back to zero. I can also run my electric fuel pump, Trippe lights and turn signals without worry of draining the battery.

I cannot say enough about how much of an improvement this is. It is also a good looking unit that really does not detract from the appearance of the engine.

Just thought that I would share...

Posted on: 2014/6/26 13:34
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Re: Seeking a Fanbelt Pulley for 37 120C eight
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Thanks for the replies and help on this. JD at Max Merritt happened to have one and he is sending that out to me right away. I was not sure that he would since there is not one listed on the site, so the lesson is that a phone call cannot hurt and only help.

So now I can focus on getting my 120 out of the garage and to some shows this season.

Thanks again, and I am glad that I registered for this forum.

Rich

Posted on: 2012/4/23 11:19
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Re: Seeking a Fanbelt Pulley for 37 120C eight
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Excellent!

Thank you for the info!

R

Posted on: 2012/4/23 6:09
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Seeking a Fanbelt Pulley for 37 120C eight
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Hello PackardInfo group,
I am in the process of trying to solve a vibration problem with my 120 282, and my first inclination was to replace the old damper. Upon removal of the damper, I discovered that the pulley assembly that attaches to the damper has a crack in it, and we seem to think that this is the culprit. Only problem is, I don't have the pulley and I cannot seem to find one at the major vendors. Is there anyone on here that has one to sell, and/or may know of a vendor that does? Please feel free to contact me via this site or my email address sporto@verizon.net. I have the exact part number of what I am looking for, but anyone who has ever taken apart a 282 should know exactly what I need.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to read this.

Rich

Posted on: 2012/4/22 20:06
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