As we do not have any scientific proof of the superiority of any type, nor any reports of damage/failure from any type, I'd agree that this anecdotal evidence favors Type F.

I have not, will not and can not give or withhold permission for anything. What I have done is give the benefit of my experience so that those considering can make the best choice that suits their and their car's needs.


In the interest of all, I think that some equivalent or stronger public "suggestions" might be made to those who make misleading and inaccurate statements.

Let the rule of reason prevail.

To Packard V8:



I have stayed away from commercialism as much as I can but sometimes it is necessary

Here goes, competent rebuilder:

Kanter Auto Products
76 Monroe St.
Boonton, NJ 07005
www.kanter.com/packard
800-526-1096 x 336

Rebuilt BTV's usually in stock, usually can be sent with core charge.

I have revised this post in the spirit of future progress.
Thank you.

BH

I try to bring reason to discussions in many areas of my life. In my OPINION, many people get scared about things that they need not. For example non-zinc oils- we sell engine parts for all makes and have seen no skyrocketing of bearing sales (wish we did). In my OPINION this is a non-problem. Non-leaded gas, when it was mandated there was a rush to have hardened valve seats installed and stainless valves to prevent inevitable catastrophies----that never happened. Amoco sold non-lead for years and engines did just fine.
Bendix Treadle Vac- Maintain the system well, have it rebuilt by a competent rebuilder etc etc

Fluid level in 50-54 for resaons explained

I have 51 years experience and yes I can be wrong. When I ma, I set the record straight. What I' trying to do is sepatate the REAL problems from the IMAGINED ones.

FRAM/SCAM filters. In my opinion after examining much evidence and internet posts, there is no problem. Just a bunch of misguided individuals who get their jollies trying to tear down the leader in filters, FRAM, and another bunch of brainless "me to's" .

Now perhaps we can all try to solve some real problem or source a scarce part.

"It is the person with the unpopular , controvertial view who persists that often causes progress." A paraphrase of a famous quote, forgot who????

To Cortcomp,

In this forum discussing checking trans fluid why do you bring up trans bushings?? Is it to help checking fluid level or just to heap scorn on Kanter?? (me) THERE ARE OTHERS WHO SELL BUSHINGS, WHY NO MENTION OF HAVING TO MACHINE THE TRANS TO ACCEPT THEIR BUSHINGS?? ( I already know the answer) How about telling everyone that our head gaskets blow out on '54 aluminum heads (if you don't surface them and make them flat) or other prejudicial stuff

As I stated in another forum, the first several hundred or so EL-Traumatics had some NON-REPLACEABLE bushings, Packard designed some hard parts with thin bronze bushings and the entire part had to be replaced if the bushings were worn. Of the thousands of Ultramatic kits we have sold in 40+ years I recall 3 customers who encountered the problem. It is Packard Motor Car Co that created that problem, not Kanter Auto. To post as you did reflects poorly on Kanter while the problem was created by Packard. I think you should set the record straight and perhaps thank Kanter for all the diligent attention to details which help keep Packards on the road. For example, I MENTIONED THIS PROBLEM ON THIS FORUM SO OWNERS WOULD BE AWARE OF PACKARD'S CHANGE IN DESIGN TO MAKE REPAIRS LESS COSTLY AND HOW TO OVERCOME IT.

It is quite simple to machine the hole larger. While you're at it why don't you mention that the oversize pistons we supply require that the block be bored!!!!! Imagine our stupidity and carelessness!!!

If I sound annoyed,you're right. Some people would rather throw stones than use those stones to build something strong and useful.

Owen_Dyneto, Thanks, you understand

There are opinions on GM and Type F fluids, but nowhere has anyone reported failures or poor performance with any brand/type of fluid. Draw you own conclusion.

Yes, Packard V8, what parts can you supply for a '39? At tiems there are items we do not have for a customer, give us a general idea s we may use yoiu as a source or refer customers to you

How can you give an unbiased opinion on bias ply tires??

Am I missing something here?? Why not just have the mechanic who greases the car check the fluid like they did in the 50's?? If you do your own grease jobs/maintenance at home, check it from underneath and get a proper fill pump, what's wrong with that??

As to the "danger" of a trans running out of fluid and ruining it, if the leak is that bad the trans is shot anyway. REar seals do not leak much, front seals do. If the front seal is shot then usually the bellhousing bushing is shot also.....and that's not all.

Agreed if you are trying to limp home and have to put a quart in every 30 miles a filler tube would be handy, but a flatbed is the real answer.

I have owned 50-54 Non-GS Ultramatics since 1963 and never had need for a filler/dipstick, kind of late in life to start needing one on each car. Granted I hardly drive them any more.

Erik,

Just let me know when, if daytime is inconvenient can meet you at the shop in the evening or weekends, need some notice.