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As I come down the home stretch on my research on Packard's "thief-proof" numbers, let me make one more plea for data. Data on any year is useful but I especially need data on 1938 thru 1940, 1942, and 1951 thru 1954. To be useful the data I need are the thief-proof number and the corresponding vehicle number. If a 1941-54 the Briggs number (tag by heater) is also useful.

While the finished publication may show your thief-proof number in a chart or table, there will be no link to your personal identity or that of your particular vehicle.

And thanks again to all those who have already responded.

Sorry, I was busy organizing the Irish Packard weekend! Will send on the details requested tomorrow morning Irish time. (which is really really slow!)

Pat.

1101 Club Sedan

Vehicle No; 716-462

Thief-Proof No; <184983>

Delivered to; Vally Motors,
Wheeling, W.V.

Date; 7-20-34

Left Hand Drive

Made in the USA.


Would it possible to find out who was the first owner, an impossible task I presume?

Pat.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. As it turns out I already had your thief-proof number on record via from some data I had received from noted prewar Packard historian James Pearsall. Knowing Jim as I do, since your car was already known to him he may well have some prior ownership information recorded. Jim occasionally browses this site but I suggest you contact him by mail, and provide your email address for his response.

Mr. James Pearsall
P.O.Box 9158
Zarephath, New Jersey 08890
U.S.A.

Note to other readers: I still need thief-proof data, especially 38-40, 42, and 51-54 data. I was actually hoping to get more than I have from readers on this site. If you're uncomfortable making it public, send it (with the vehicle number) via a PM.

Dave, this was off of a 48 Custom 8 sedan that was at the show:

Vehicle Number: 2252-5069
Theift No: <8I6895>

No Briggs body number was visible, sorry.

Dave,
The following are three I don't think I have sent to you before.
2122-4498 <715253> Body number 2122-4079
2279-9-10410 <839-294> Body number 2279-10362
2252-5849 <806266> Body number 2252-5777
Hope they will be of use.

Hi. I can contribute some 1940 numbers from South Africa. Please note that these cars are in a wrecked state mostly and dont belong to me. The numbers are as received from the owner and friend of mine.

1940 Club coupe
Model: 1800
Engine nr: D20083B
No Thief proof numbers

1940 Coupe
Model: 1800
Chassis nr: 1385-3247
No Thief proof numbers

1940 Touring sedan
Model: 110
No further info, but also no thief proof numbers

Some more still. This guy has a LOT of packards:

1938 Sedan Touring 1600
Thief nr.423080
1182

1938 Sedan Touring 1600
Thief nr:423216
1182-

1942 180 limousine
Thief nr: 614743
1550

1952 sedan 2501
Thief nr:B33223
2592

I still have lots more but no time to type them doen at present.

Dave,

Here's another one. This time it's Packard Club member Noel who gave permission to use these pic's of his '39 120 Sedan's details.

Thief Proof <473875>
Data Plate 1292 - 9394 - Replacement Data Plate original was missing when found.

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Many thanks for that number, it turned out to be significant as it didn't fall within the range of numbers I already had but represented new "lowest known" for that year.

To any newbies who might not have seen this thread, I'm collecting vehicle numbers (from the VN plate) and corresponding thief-proof numbers (the large embossed number on the engine-side of the cowl) to include in a study I've been doing for some years and which PAC has agreed to publish within a year or so. So if you are willing, I'm anxious to gather as many sets of numbers as possible. The publication will not include your name or any information about your car, though the thief-proof # may be listed in a table or chart. Send by PM or email if you prefer.