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More piddly little projects. I'll post pictures later.
Re-wired and re-installed my horns. Using the non-original relay for now. Wires from horn to relay are 12 gage black cloth covered wire from Brillman. Soldered on new ring terminals and covered them in shrink wrap. I also ran a new 16 gage cloth covered wire down the steering column. Horns work great, and now my column wire will attach directly to the wiring harness. The wire that was previous in the column was modern, plastic insulated, and cut 6" too short, so there was a jumper installed. I used a cotton insulated wire, black with yellow tracer, and left it long enough to connect directly! Still having a little bit of problem with the horn button. It doesn't seem to want to ground when I re-installed everything. I'll figure it out later though - troubleshooting a horn at 1000 at night seems rude to the neighbors! Next- change the oil, then drive the sucker!
Posted on: 2020/6/12 8:28
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Troubleshot the horn last night. Turns out when I re-soldered the wire to the contact that goes under the horn button, I reversed the copper disc. The spring teeth on the disc should point towards the steering wheel nut, not away. Once that was done, the button felt right and the horn worked easily. Soldered a bullet connector on the other end, added some heat shrink, and good to go.
Took the family out for a test drive, and all was smooth. I did shock a fellow motorist (and my wife!). I was executing a sharp left turn, and the first time I had turned the wheel that far left since rewiring the horn, it sounded for about five seconds! Seemed to just be a settling in thing; I couldn't re-create it. Nice to have a fully functioning horn again.
Posted on: 2020/6/15 7:58
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If you used the old wire, did you check it for any bare spots? the insulation on a lot of these old wires deteriorate after time and will short out causing the horn to sound when the steering wheel is turned twisting the wire causing it to touch the inside of the column.
Wes
Posted on: 2020/6/15 12:04
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I ran a new wire in the column. I used 16 gage cotton covered wire from Brillman. I have a connection, wrapped in tape, about 2 inches from the horn button so I can remove the steering wheel. I will shrink wrap it once I source some thinner shrink wrap.
It only happened once. I also think my horn button is not in as good of condition as it could be on the underside, and the copper disc can wobble a little bit.
Posted on: 2020/6/15 14:17
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Oops! Sorry Ken, I should have reread you previous entry. You already installed new wire.
A five second of the horn would have seemed like a long time. Maybe you bumped the horn ring and it stuck for that time. I remember as a kid, how my dad would ofter bump the horn when trying to turn it fast when trying to turn around. And if you wanted you could always install a cutout switch if it ever happens again. Just install a switch under the dash and run a couple of wires to where it connects from the column and this would also tell if it is the horn button or not. Just food for thought. Wes
Posted on: 2020/6/16 18:33
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Wes, thanks for that 😅 Thinking about it, entirely possible I bumped it. Easy to do, and I do it often on sharp turns. In this case, I was also trying to hustle just a little because there was some traffic. All good!
Got the oil changed tonight too. The oil filter housing is a bit of a pain to pump out, but it was clean. Replaced the filter, and all is well! Next is replacing the sector shaft seal on the steering box, and that's about it for now.
Posted on: 2020/6/18 19:11
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Ken, do you have a part number for that filter and where did you get it.
Wes
Posted on: 2020/6/18 19:59
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Wix 51076. I got these on Amazon, but Napa carries them too.
Posted on: 2020/6/18 21:36
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Ken, Do you recall whether both options include the rubber gasket for the canister cover? Seems they are sometimes included...sometimes not.
Pat
Posted on: 2020/6/19 12:01
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