Re: Radial or Bias Ply Tires???
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My new '51 Packard arrives Wednesday sitting on 30+ year old tires so I've been following everything written on this string including the one from the Imperial Club Website and I'm getting really confused.
First of all are the '51 rims usable with Tubeless Tires? I see from the above that they were first offered on '54s, hence the question. Second, I realize that words like "handling" "ride" can be subjective terms. For someone who likes to race through mountain roads good handling and ride has a different meaning than to one who actually likes the very soft ride that was the norm in the '50s. What I've seen here is that bias ply tires for some provide a softer ride while others claim radials are best for a soft ride. What I'm looking for due to a very bad back, are tires that will provide the softest ride. I don't intend to do any high speed freeway driving with this car and my daily driver can provide the "handling" necessary when I feel the urge to drive fast on curves. Last but not least I know that tire pressure impacts ride as well as the suspension. The "Operator's Manual" for '51 recommends cold tire pressure at 24psi. Of course, that was printed when bias tires were "it". If I did go for radials, what would be the correct psi? Thank you all for wealth of information you've given during my steep learning curve here. It's gone a long way towards making my long overdue return to Packard doable. I also want to thank the members in the Portland area like Steve Fisher who have offered help, advice, tools and experience as well as John Wallis who has been of great help in my search for a '56. Jim L. in OR
Posted on: 2010/10/28 12:24
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Re: Radial or Bias Ply Tires???
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I run wire wheels and radial tires. The Packard wires were introduced in 53 before tubeless. One set of wires is sealed for tubeless, but the other has tubes. I think the radials provide a soft comfortable ride. I maintain the air pressure at the max recommended for the tire. The radials provide a much better ride than the bias-ply tires did.
Posted on: 2010/10/28 17:06
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Jim L. I know nothing about tires, but I appear to have a tubeless tire on an original rim (I believe it is. The hubcap fits perfectly) on my '51. Below are the pics. Don't know if that helps or not.
Posted on: 2010/10/28 21:38
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Excepting wire spokes, many older rims will successfully hold tubeless tires without tubes. Did so on my 48 Custom, and I know several folks who run tubeless on prewar cars. That's not a guarantee that every pre 54 rim will be satisfactory with a tubeless tire, but odds are good.
Posted on: 2010/10/28 22:25
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I'm running Diamond Back WWW tubeless radials on my '50 rims. So far I've logged 1,425 miles with no problems.
Posted on: 2010/10/28 23:13
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And I'm also running Diamondback WWW tubeless radials on my '41 120 Club Coupe with over 4,000 miles and no troubles.
Posted on: 2010/10/29 0:31
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I have about 4000 miles on my 38 with Diamondback tubeless radials and like OZ no problems
Posted on: 2010/10/29 6:35
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Re: Radial or Bias Ply Tires???
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It has to do with whether or not the wheel centre is RIVETED or welded to the outer rim. However, i have seen a few riveted wheels that would hold air sufficiently for tubeless tyres. Others that would not.
Posted on: 2010/10/29 9:21
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VAPOR LOCK demystified: See paragraph SEVEN of PMCC documentaion as listed in post #11 of the following thread:f
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My rims are riveted but what I did was to clean the inside of the rim and put some RTV on all the heads.
Posted on: 2010/10/29 9:37
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