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I have had good luck just twisting speed nuts as I carefully pull them off. I use needle nose pliers to grab the speed nut and then twist as I pull. Prying, I have found is more difficult and there is not always room to do it this way.
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Posted on: 2012/7/22 13:25
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Brian raised an interesting point regarding the script on the Senior front fenders. I'm getting ready to re-install the stainless trim on my '55 Four Hundred and am curious as to whether the clips go in back of the stainless before it is installed on the front fender or whether the stainless is installed first and then the script. I know that the front fenders had holes for the script pins, but I I can't tell whether the clips were inside of the fender or the stainless. My Patrician isn't much help since the script is missing from the passenger's side and riveted on the driver's side. (Needless to say, that has to be fixed).
Posted on: 2012/7/22 17:19
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IIRC, The stainless lies flat against the fender. Script studs go thru it and the sheetmetal. The clips (and rubber washers if any) go against the sheet metal.
Posted on: 2012/7/22 18:00
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That's what I suspected, but I wasn't sure so I thought it best to ask for some advice from more experienced forum members.
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Posted on: 2012/7/22 22:35
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Thanks for the clarification, Howard.
Both of my Pats have been repainted. IIRC, on at least one of those cars, it appears that they pulled the trim, but incorrectly installed the retainers against back of the stainless, then applied the trim against the fender. (Bad monkeys!)
Posted on: 2012/7/23 8:33
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OK, as promised, here are a couple of pix from my tired, old, but unrestored '56 Carib Hardtop, showing the retainers (and seals) that fasten the Packard script (6478520) to the trunk lid. That script only uses three retainers and seals; the fourth, shown at upper left, is for the tip if the "V", which has a larger diameter pin.
In the close-up shot of the retainer (444209), you can just make out the "two slot" design (as noted by HH56). The garden-variety, multi-pronged, round push nuts won't do the job, here. To remove the OE retainers, I had initially used a small, flat-bladed, pocket screwdrivers (often given freely as a promotional item) to pry the prongs up a bit, but now wonder if that might have distorted and weakened them for reuse. I later found that a set of small dental type picks (from JC Whitney) would let me walk them off the pin, but it helps to have a tool (needle-nose pliers, forceps, etc.) to hold the retainers - lest they fall out of reach.
Posted on: 2012/7/23 8:41
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As to the script, I no longer have a car to look at that has the stainless so am going by failing memory that they go thru both.
Guess it all depends on the length of the studs. If short or perhaps broken when removed, there might not be enough length to go thru both. How much does the stainless bulge when the retainer is between the two. The clips are thin so if not really noticeable then perhaps not an issue either way.
Posted on: 2012/7/23 9:40
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The retainers on my 400 were on the inside of the fender, not pressing against the stainless.
Posted on: 2012/7/23 10:34
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HH56 wrote:
Quote: How much does the stainless bulge when the retainer is between the two. The clips are thin so if not really noticeable then perhaps not an issue either way. Not really noticeable, but my two Pats are dingy old survivors, not show cars. While the parts books shows (same) seals also used at this locations, I'd bet $$$ that they were left off in the course of the repaint.
Posted on: 2012/7/23 12:04
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