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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Thanks for that JW. I understand what you're saying. Also, the idea of extending the dizzie clamp is a good one. I might do that sometime.

Posted on: 2014/11/13 18:24
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11-13-14

With numb frozen fingers I added the extended bolt to my distributor clamp. Now that it would be easier, I attempted to adjust the timing. Car was 15 degrees retarded, but ran smooth. Got it to 6 BTDC. Gave it a rev test and it hesitated horribly to the point it would have stalled if I had not played with the throttle. Then of course....I ran out of gas! That's OK I was cold anyway.

Larry51 I would much rather have your weather than mine!

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11-16-14

Filled with fresh gas. Car started relatively easily after gas worked its way up to the carb. Checked again and timing is at 6 BTDC. Car is running rough. Hooked up tach and set RPM to 450. Car still shaking. Played with the carb screws and got the idle a little smoother, but not like a Packard should be. Still hesitates when I give it gas. A couple of revs and a rather loud backfire later and I was done for the day. A couple of inches of snow indicate I will not be working on the car very much longer this season.

So I have:

Rebuilt the carb
Installed a rebuilt fuel pump
Rebuilt the distributor with new points and condenser
Rewired the car (at least the front half)
Installed a good ignition switch

The result is a car that still hesitates pretty bad when given gas and a rough idle.

I guess I am not very good at tuning engines!

I also still have the tapping noise. Maybe that is causing all of the issues?

I want to hook up a vacuum gauge to tune the carb, but if you are not supposed to use the port that goes to the distributor, where do you hook it up?

I'm wondering if I have a manifold leak.

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11-23-14

Time to put the car away for winter. Got it situated in the driveway so I could get the snowblower around it easily. Found it was almost a gallon of antifreeze low so I refilled the radiator. Took the battery out for storage in the basement. Can't wait for spring to start again!!!

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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Digging around in the Packard specs in the service manual, I just realized I have the wrong engine in my car! Guess I should have checked on that before buying! Not that I care much because I kind of wanted the bigger engine anyway. My car is a 2562 so the only options were the 288 if I am reading it correctly. It has a 327 (verified by the motor number). Right year, wrong size? For some reason I was thinking the 327 could be had as an option?

I also read that the 288 and 327 are the same block. Will the intake/exhaust manifolds from the 288 in my '51 fit the 327 OK or will it diminish performance? The reason I ask is that those manifolds are already cleaned up and the heat riser is free. The 327 has a stuck heat riser and is rusty.

Also if the motor is wrong, I was thinking of putting on a 4 barrel manifold from a later car. Not sure it would give enough HP to be worth the trouble sourcing (and paying) for the parts. Just thinking out loud...

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If you check the 1952 Build Sheet and Production Code Chart that I compiled (from factory Trade Letters), you'll find that the 327-cid engine was, indeed, a regular production option for all 200 and 200 Deluxe models.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 21:38
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I may have found my answer on the 288 vs 327 manifolds...

To quote Ross on This Thread:

"Interestingly, although the manifolds all interchange 51-54, the 288, 327, and 359 all had different inside diameters in the runners. I put a 359 4bbl mainfold on a ported and relieved 288 but found it prone to bogging in normal driving because of inadequate velocity in those long runners."

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Thanks Brian! That's great news! Nevermind about the 4 barrel manifold...I will keep it stock then. I guess the specs I saw in the service manual were only for standard equipment?

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I'd still look at the carb. Perhaps it's not adjusted correctly, or something went askew during the rebuild. Have you checked the engine vacuum? Maybe you have a leak somewhere.

Posted on: 2014/12/30 12:33
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Hi Bigkev,

I think my carb is OK. I was thinking of going with the 4 barrel, just for more power.

I haven't had the vacuum gauge on yet, but I do still have that "tick" in the engine. In the spring I'm going to open the valve covers and observe them. Maybe one is sticking or not pumping up.

I'm sure I also have some leaks. I will have to remove my manifold (reason I asked if the 288 would work on it) because I think the gasket is leaking.

Lots of work to do when the time comes. I'm hoping I can rule out the ignition system with all the work I have in it.

I can't remember if I asked before or not, but where do you hook up the vacuum gauge to the engine to check?

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