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1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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Looking for help with putting horn back together. Need help on how horn button is put in. Is it supposed to have tabs on back? Does anyone have pics of assy. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

Posted on: 2021/1/14 21:41
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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Going from memory, it is pressed in by hand, then turned slightly where the ears on the tabs keep it in place with the resistance of a spring. I know that this an oversimplification but I hope it helps until someone with more recent knowledge chimes in!

Posted on: 2021/1/14 23:11
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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So on the back of the horn button there are supposed to be tabs that clip into the metal tabs on retainer ring. My button is repro and missing those tabs.

Posted on: 2021/1/15 17:20
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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I don't believe the push and twist arrangement came into being before the 48 models. 47 at least has a chrome ring which holds the plastic emblem to the horn ring. The chrome piece has tabs which fit into slots on the horn ring and are bent over to retain the emblem.

Here is an illustration of the 47 assy that started with the 41 models and MAY also be applicable to the 40. In this wheel the ring as an assy is held to the wheel by screws coming from the back side of the steering wheel.

Note the steering wheel hub is plastic on this illustration. The banjo wheels have a steel hub so in addition to insulating sleeves around the screws going thru the hub to hold the ring there is also a fiber gasket under the horn ring assy to isolate the horn ring from the grounded hub.

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Posted on: 2021/1/15 17:40
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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I don't believe the push and twist arrangement came into being before the 48 models.


This may be true for the banjo type with the horn ring as I can't recall how mine came off or reinstalled on one my my 1940 110s. On the other two, though, and on the 1939 Six with the plain wheel, it did press and turn and I still have several of those buttons as souvenirs as the Bakelite tabs are broken off.

Posted on: 2021/1/16 3:43
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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You maybe way past this project already. My 110 has a banjo wheel with a horn ring. Problem I encountered was the gasket that insulated the ring from the grounded hub was basically crumbling. Caused horn to go off in the middle of night and fun stuff like that. Anyway I replaced that gasket with two plumbing gaskets from Home Depot. One is foam like material the other is thinner harder rubber. The combo was perfect for compression feel to engage horn from the ring. My cap was starting to get a crack so I put a thick layer of epoxy on the underside to get some more years out of it.

Foam went on first then rubber. It all comes apart with three screws from the bottom of steering wheel.

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Posted on: 2021/4/12 12:43
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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Nice fix Buster.

Posted on: 2021/4/12 14:47
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Re: 1940 120 Banjo wheel horn button
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perfect, just the info i needed. mine was complete but missing the rubber, i couldn't figure out what acted as the spring. thanks

Posted on: 2021/11/23 18:26
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