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While you have the wheels off, I'd pop off the brake drums and make sure all the parts are in their proper places.
Posted on: 2021/5/25 11:21
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. This is the same wheel that had the warped drum, so it's possible that my problems are related to that.
The differential fluid is brand new (85W-140, extreme pressure from Valvoline), and the diff is full. It's actually slightly over full at the moment because I wanted to be sure that oil was getting to the pinion. I'm going to let out the excess here shortly. I have not done anything with the pinion seal or bearing. It's not leaking at the front of the diff, so I figured I shouldn't mess with it. The suggestion about removing the wheels and swapping them side-side is a good one. I hate to pull the drums again, but that's something I'll probably have to do. I need to be sure that everything is still in its proper place, as Joe suggested. I do have a stethoscope, but didn't love the idea of getting all the way under the car while everything is spinning. To my ear it sounded like it was coming from the front of the diff, but re-watching the videos it seems like the noise is in time with the rotation of the driver's wheel. Don, when you say a brake spring dragging, are you saying that it might be weak and causing the shoe to contact the drum? -Kevin
Posted on: 2021/5/25 12:11
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David - there is nothing abnormal when putting the car in gear. No clunks, shudder, or driveline vibration. I was under the car yesterday, before any test drives, taking a look at the rear u-joint and noted some fluid coming out from a couple areas. Not surprising, since this shaft really hasn't spun much for many years. I twisted out the two slotted bearing cups enough to inject some 140 oil in there in hopes that it would help lube the rest of the internals. It was at this point I realized that the two slotted bearing cups had no C-clips on them, so it's a miracle they didn't come out during my previous drives. I picked up some clips from the hardware store and popped them on for now. I'll try your suggestion of tightening the brakes one at a time and testing. I did loosen the driver's rear brakes two clicks yesterday before my test drive. I felt like they were grabbing too much on that side making it hard to turn. I'm not sure if maybe that made the sound louder or not. -Kevin Attach file:  Rear universal joint.jpg (132.45 KB)
Posted on: 2021/5/25 13:04
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If the U-joint is bone dry and the needle bearings have rusted away, that could make a squeal too. I've seen that before, in a failed modern u-joint.
It might be worth disassembling that u-joint, and inspecting it. U-joints are pretty cheap, typically.
Posted on: 2021/5/25 13:34
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I'll second what Ken_P said in regard to the U-joint. That U-joint looks pretty crusty and since it has no provision for greasing, it likely could be your culprit.
How long has the car sat since it was regularly driven? Replace (or at least disassemble/clean/inspect/grease) the u-joints now, versus having a failure on the road! Even if that doesn't eliminate the squeak, you have eliminated a potential problem 'down the road' by applying preventative maintenance.
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Napa should have them and they were even able to supply one for my 1951 Henney-Packard! (It uses three but I had two in stock already,) Best to take it in for a matchup.
Posted on: 2021/5/26 11:43
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Anyone have a part number for the u-joint, or do I just take it in there and have them figure it out? Parts cross reference doesn't have anything.
-Kevin
Posted on: 2021/5/26 13:03
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Had a guy come over last night to see what he thought about the squealing. He's far more familiar with old cars than I am. He thought bearing right off the bat.
We put the car on jack stands in the back, blocked the front wheels, then put the car in drive. Then, using the parking brake cables we were able to easily choose which wheel would spin. It is 100% coming from the driver's rear wheel. We did a 3-4 mile drive and listened to the sound. Then back up on stands to check around. The axle housing over the axle bearing was not hot at all. Barely warm if at all. After that he wasn't sure what to think. No growling, no real roughness. Just squealing. I took it out for a test drive tonight and initially there was no noise whatsoever for the first couple miles. Then it started up and got steadily louder. I'm kind of at a loss. On the positive side, my turn signals magically started working tonight without any intervention from me. So that's good news. If only my fuel gauge would do that now. -Kevin
Posted on: 2021/5/27 23:13
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I wonder if it's still wheel bearings, sometimes thing can create a lot of noise but not a lot of heat, think of a whistle.
Like here: Squeaking wheel bearings.
Posted on: 2021/5/28 2:40
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