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Posted on: 5/24 8:28
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Okay, first of all this document is written for a negative ground car and you have positive ground, so to use it you have to change some things. Like it says touch the + lead to arm and – to ground. You should do the opposite, etc.
To confirm, we can check: - when the – of your voltmeter is on the arm terminal, and + on ground, with the car on, you should see some positive voltage. If it's negative, your generator is polarized backwards. (If you have an analog or cheap voltmeter that cannot indicate negative voltage, switch the leads to check for negative voltage.) You should disconnect arm and field from the regulator during these tests. Edit: saw your edit.
Posted on: 5/24 11:30
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Ok! I assumed it was positive ground cause of the age…I’ll go check it again now tks
Posted on: 5/24 13:54
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Ok thanks for the info….my new readings are….at a high idle both the regulator and battery test at 7.0 to 7.2 volts they appear to be testing the same amount of voltage…. At same high idle the generator is testing at 7.8 to 7.9 volts. According to those test instructions this is pointing to a bad regulator which I ordered yesterday. My ammeter needle slams to the right and to the left based upon idle..it gets stuck in both full and empty positions until i tap it and release it…should I do any tests with the field wire or do you thinks it’s the regulator…thank you!!
Posted on: 5/24 16:06
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Can anyone tell me how to set high idle or what that even means when trying to read voltmeter…
Posted on: 5/25 17:59
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High idle isn't a setting as such. You simply hold the throttle at a speed where the generator is putting out the maximum voltage. At normal idle it's too slow to be able to get useful measurements.
Posted on: 5/25 20:50
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High idle generally refers to "cold" idle. In other words, when the throttle is held up by the step on the carb cam that is connected to the choke linkage.
One the engine is warm enough, i.e. when the choke opens enough, the throttle plate shaft can move past the cam stop to the fully closed position, putting the engine in low idle.
Posted on: 5/25 21:09
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In the ’54 shop manual, section XXI, there is mention of 900 rpm for the Delco equipment, and 920 rpm for Autolite equipped cars. Those values are the expectations for the reverse current relay (aka cut-out relay) to close, meaning the generator is ‘on-line’. I would expect ‘high idle’ is a term that means the system is operating with the generator ‘on-line’, plus a few hundred rpm of margin. You can also search for this rpm, because once the relay is closed, the system is up to temperature, and the battery is fully charged (or close to it), the voltage regulator should be in the voltage regulation mode. That is additional rpm does not result in an increase in voltage. My bet is 1200 rpm will do. A word of caution, in that most of the generator/regulator voltage specifications are for a system at normal operating temperature. dp
Posted on: 5/25 22:14
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Ok tks…I got a new regulator and still having charge issues..I’m wondering now if the car has a serious battery drain somewhere when key is on and maybe always did but I never noticed as I didn’t ever drive it to far and it was converted to 12 volts…it also has a 6 volt fuel pump mounted at tank wires to ignition switch…I bring this up as every time I recharge the battery for testing the batt cable with spark mounting it…I read here that could be a sign …? Getting same readings with new regulator …
Did tests this am..charged battery to 6.35 volts when I attached battery cable the voltage dropped to 6.2 volts with the driver side door open and dome light on. When I turn key on but don’t start it drops to 6.0 volts….that is with mechanical fuel pump on with key on..it will then start but not strong….did field terminal test at fast idle..and it jumps up approximately 1 volt …no matter the idle speed. At regular idle the battery is reading a constant 6.0 volts…..when I rev it up it will get to 6.6… then when turning car off the voltage will return to about 6.2 at battery….these are probably most accurate tests as this has been quite the learning experience for me…if anyone has any further advice it would be appreciated..I’m thinking my step be would take the generator to an arm shop and have them test the output as the regulator is new…?
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