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I really don't understand why PAC put their forums in the "members only" section. In the past 3 months there have only been 9 new threads posted and a couple were cross-posted here. I don't think it even takes 3 days for this forum to hit that number.

Put another way, does anyone consider that to have been a good change?

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I can't speak for the PAC site but many post to the PAC Facebook group instead. There are other Packard Facebook groups too including one for PackardInfo.com and I for one refer people here as it is many times better and more informative than any of those. There are a couple people on the PAC site who I knew 40 years ago but for some reason they are not here too.

HPH, An excellent question and one that puzzled me when I first ran into it. After reading their Newsletter notice you posted here I reluctantly agreed with the reasoning for the other categories they limited but not the forum. Seems to me like they would want to have an information outlet wide open but apparently not. Maybe it has something to do with spam posts which had gotten somewhat prevalent there.

After the initial limit to the forum something happened and it was open again for a couple of weeks or so. Whether that was an accident, a trial run, or something else is unknown but it was locked down tight again and has stayed that way since. It is a shame that some people will not get a timely answer or maybe any at all as you are correct in that the traffic there has been very low for some time. Many do not know about packardinfo to ask questions here either.

AACA used to be the go to forum for Packards but I think it was some actions by a heavy moderator that drove people away from there so it also is barely alive. Kev stepped in to start this forum so we can thank him for packardinfo being open and so popular. Between a former moderator at the PAC forum and the lockdown I fear the same has or will happen to that forum. Whether people are going to a facebook place I suppose that is a possibility but I am not now or ever will be a member of facebook and I expect there are many others who feel the same way.

I felt the same way about Facebook for many years before I realized that the groups are private so one can "lurk" there safely.

I didn't realize my pac membership lapsed till I wanted to visit the pac website. I was looking there every now and then for vehicles and parts but that's all blocked. This is a very good way to keep potential packard enthusiasts away.

I got ran off a few years ago from the AACA forum by a politically motivated moderator. Glad there's PI which is not biased at all.

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I can say that when I first took possession of my dad’s car, the first place I went was the PAC site and the forums there. That was VERY helpful for me just learning about Packards and my car. It was, actually in the PAC forums where I first found a reference to Packardinfo.

I completely understand the need to keep scammers etc…out, but there is a price for that. People new to Packard can’t see valuable information and may not be ready to pay for a membership yet.

All in, I’m a bit torn as I really don’t know what all is involved with keeping scammers at bay. I would guess that Kevin puts a bit a time into that for this site.

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