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Re: 1950 packard 288 engine just rebuilt now has water in the oil
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Water or other coolant will expand considerably at operating temperature and return to its original volume when it cools. A freshly filled cooling system may contain some trapped air. Air dissolved in the water will be expelled when the water is heated, which might reduce volume slightly. The engine should have a thermostat installed and should reach full operating temperature for 20 minutes or more. Ideally, it would have some load applied. It is normal for some moisture to be expelled at the exhaust. Burning one gallon of gasoline yields just over three gallons of water, most of which will be expelled at the exhaust as steam. Some of it will reach the crankcase. Getting the engine up to operating temperature for 20 minutes or so will remove it.

I would run the engine through 6 or more warm up and cool down cycles, and retorque the head in the process, following proper procedure. It's best to run the engine at various speeds and loads for an hour per cycle. This helps seat rings and will avoid water condensation collecting in the crankcase.

To sum up, I would watch for water in the oil pan, and observe the coolant level over several run cycles without adding any coolant.

Posted on: Yesterday 9:29
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Re: 1950 packard 288 engine just rebuilt now has water in the oil
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I agree with TxGoat, and I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but be extra extra sure you don't have water in your oil again. I would loosen the drain plug to see if any water is present in the pan. If there doesn't appear to be any oil, then I would proceed like TxGoat suggested.

If you start it back up again I would pull the dip stick after it's run for a minute to make sure your oil is clear and not foamy.

In the service manual Packard suggests running a new/rebuilt engine at higher rpms to make sure the rings get adequate lubrication.

Posted on: Yesterday 9:42
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Re: 1950 packard 288 engine just rebuilt now has water in the oil
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I dont know if my last post went threw or not. But ran the engine yesterday and let it set drained the oil and let it left the water in the radiator. When I checked the oil later saw no sign of water in the oil. I did the same thing today and again let it set with the water in the system. Had to leave for 5 hours and just got back home I just loosened the oil pan drain plug and saw no water at this time.

Posted on: Today 15:50
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Re: 1950 packard 288 engine just rebuilt now has water in the oil
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Today had removed the 160 degree thermostat and installed the 180 so I could get the engine hotter. I ran the engine for 40 minutes at different speeds no load "still on my test not in the car." I also have a big floor in front of the radiator so the engine dont get to hot. I check the temp with a gun and never saw anything above 185 degrees. After I shut it down retorqued the head per the Packard service manual , some turned 1/8 to about 1/4 of a turn. When I rechecked them their was very movement if any at all.

I will drain the oil in the morning and hope to find no water in my pan. Then I will check the water level in the radiator and hope it did not lose any or very little. Their were very few fumes from the breather on the oil fill when running ,their were more fumes from the crankcase rear valve cover opening. I believe their were more at idle then at higher engine speeds if I remember correctly. Hope if its still losing water it not as much and not getting into the oil. I will try to do an update later tomorrow. "Thanks to all "

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Re: 1950 packard 288 engine just rebuilt now has water in the oil
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Great news!!! Sounds like you are good to go!

Posted on: Today 16:32
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Re: 1950 packard 288 engine just rebuilt now has water in the oil
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Some "smoke" from the crankcase breather is normal, especially with a newly built engine. With the engine running, more visible fumes will usually be present at the road draft pipe at the rear of the engine, and when the engine is stopped, more will usually appear at the oil fill/breather. When the rings fully seat, it will probably diminish somewhat, but some visible crankcase vapor when the engine is running and for a while after it is stopped is normal.

Posted on: Today 19:22
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