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IIRC Hudsonite is 30% Kerosene and 70% 10w oil.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 11:29
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Discounting most recent 10 to 15 years i doubt that any of the 50's-60-70's ATF's were much different from each other within their time frame. Any of them not red?????
Mineral oil is used mostly in ag equipment to lube the trans,axle, and 3hree point hitch hydraulics. But these are very low speed vehicles tho it suprises me that the mineral oil is good enuf for such high pressure placed on the gears and axles.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 11:35
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Though they may or may not all be red, there were distinct differences in the additives in the various fluids. With additives in Dexron to allow clutches to slip a bit for a smoother engagement, it's quite contradictory in requirements for an Ultramatic, though obviously some folks have had satisfactory experiences with it.
I believe that 69, 70 or 71 was the last year for the whale oil-based fluids. I've heard that a rash of transmission failures for GM followed the conversion. I've heard that Hudsonite fluid also contains rosin. Can't verify that but you can still buy the original formula from HET Club.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 15:10
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I've heard that Hudsonite fluid also contains rosin. Can't verify that but you can still buy the original formula from HET Club. I have a glass bottle of Hudsonite from at least the '40s that's still full, if anyone wants to do a chemical analysis on it I'll donate some to the cause.....
Posted on: 2009/5/12 15:49
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"No, I didn't know there were 2 types, how do you tell the dinasour juice from the synthetic? Labels different?"
Yes, two different labels, two different prices. Synthetic is recommended for more modern transmissions. Have had positive experiences with both. Synthetic in 2003 Grand Marquis (at about 80,000 miles when torque converter did not want to stay locked) and petroleum based in '55 Pat. I'd tried Dexron/Mercon and Type F both. After reading a post from Eric when he was driving his V8, tried the Trick Shift. It eliminated the direct drive clutch slippage for me in the Patrician for me.
Posted on: 2009/5/13 8:41
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B&M TrickShift is the ONLY fluid I recommend in Ultramatics. I've tried them all, from Dextron/Mercon to Type F to Dextron/Mercon V, and TrickShift was the only one that helped the trans. I've tried all kinds of snake oil additives, too. None of them worked, but the TrickShift did.
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Trick Shift 1 quart google shopping
Summit Racing has it for 4.75/quart. 12 quarts according to the ultramatic service manual (page 29) - 7 for the tranny and 5 for the converter. BTW, when using any internet shopping service, make sure you look seriously at the seller rating before buying. Pay extra for a good seller rating. EDIT: I couldn't find it in 1 gallon containers.
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I've tried them all, from Dextron/Mercon to Type F to Dextron/Mercon V, and TrickShift was the only one that helped the trans.
Turbopacman, if you've got the time, pls take a few minutes and help me understand this a bit better. Are you saying that if you've got a marginally worn trans, maybe worn shafts and/bushings, clutches, low hydraulic pressures, or things of that manner that TrickShift can restore a reasonable level of performance for a time? Or maybe just better longevity between rebuilds (though hard to do a controlled experiement to prove)?
Posted on: 2009/5/13 12:13
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I agree with Turbo. I'd give Trickshift a try. It's a bit expensive, but so is rebuilding a transmission. While not related, I had to rebuild the Fordomatic 2 speed in my Edsel last year. I tried Type F since I couldn't find any Type A around. The car ran and drove but groaned and missed it's shift occasionally. Trickshift solved those problems.
Posted on: 2009/5/13 12:45
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