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BDeB

Re: Side mirror

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53 Cavalier wrote:
The plot thickens! Don commented that 51-54 did not have a bracket and the mirror bolted on through both the belt molding and the door, so the bolt head would be inside the door. (Longer bolt for 51-54 than 55-56)

Now why the change to how the mirror was mounted? It would mean you could change the side mirror on 55-56 without taking the door apart. Maybe the mirror is more secure with the bracket, although that doesn't seem likely.

Hmmmm....

There is a written instruction in the next column of the service manual that describes how to mount the mirror by drilling a 15/32" hole through the moulding and outer door panel and "jiggling" with the mounting screw and washer loosely installed and then tightening the screw.
Perhaps the washer used has an oblong shape rather than round to allow it to go through the hole in the outer door panel as shown in Section A-A of the illustration.

Posted on: Today 17:14

1949 Custom 8

53 Cavalier

Re: Side mirror

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Pgh Ultramatic wrote:
Related thread

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Thank you, lots of good discussion there!

Posted on: Today 17:33

53 Cavalier

Re: Side mirror

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BDeB wrote:
Quote:

53 Cavalier wrote:
The plot thickens! Don commented that 51-54 did not have a bracket and the mirror bolted on through both the belt molding and the door, so the bolt head would be inside the door. (Longer bolt for 51-54 than 55-56)

Now why the change to how the mirror was mounted? It would mean you could change the side mirror on 55-56 without taking the door apart. Maybe the mirror is more secure with the bracket, although that doesn't seem likely.

Hmmmm....

There is a written instruction in the next column of the service manual that describes how to mount the mirror by drilling a 15/32" hole through the moulding and outer door panel and "jiggling" with the mounting screw and washer loosely installed and then tightening the screw.
Perhaps the washer used has an oblong shape rather than round to allow it to go through the hole in the outer door panel as shown in Section A-A of the illustration.

I completely missed this, thank you! Not only do I need the special screw, but I think you're right, a special washer as well.

Do you have a printed service manual that shows those measurements clearly? I think that first one is 4 9/16" and I could figure out the other by measuring the two mounting points.

I wonder if the reason for the base plate in 55-56 was to make it easier to mount the mirrors to the belt molding or the fender?

Mounting on the fender does not seem to be something done from 51-53, at least not what Packard was recommending, so I think mine will go on the belt molding. If I can't find the special screw I wonder if there's enough room to sneak a little bolt in from inside the door. It would be tight!

I suppose mirrors get removed and the little screws fall off and are left inside the belt molding.

I think I at least understand now what is going on.

Posted on: Today 17:48

BDeB

Re: Side mirror

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Yes, 4-9/16" back from the lower end at the front of the belt moulding to the centre of the mounting hole, then a further 3-1/4" back to the centre of the hole for the stud. Drill 7/32" holes first then back to the front one for the 15/32" hole.

From an original service manual.

Posted on: Today 19:01

1949 Custom 8

53 Cavalier

Re: Side mirror

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BDeB wrote:
Yes, 4-9/16" back from the lower end at the front of the belt moulding to the centre of the mounting hole, then a further 3-1/4" back to the centre of the hole for the stud. Drill 7/32" holes first then back to the front one for the 15/32" hole.

From an original service manual.

I'd sure like to see a picture of the washer. I can imagine it being oval like you said, but also having the same profile as the molding, and maybe a little shoulder to keep it centered. I think I better stop by Pete's and look for a car that has holes in the belt molding from where a side mirror was removed and see if I can find a screw and washer.

Posted on: Today 19:50

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