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Am not aware of anything connected to gas pedal regarding brakes.
If you refer to the black canister between the master cylinder and brake pedal, then that is the vacuum booster portion. Aside from the lubricant getting sticky and preventing the return spring from functioning well, a hose disconnecting internally or fluid leaking in due to a bad seal on MC piston, very little usually goes wrong there. Two recurring themes with Easamatics (Bendix TreadleVac) seem to be 1) is there is only a single lip seal between the piston and vacuum so if any pitting of piston shaft or seal damage happens, the fluid can be sucked into booster section. 2) The compensating port to fluid reservoir valve is a single "blob" of rubber on a stalk and suspended on a spring. When the brakes are released and "home", this valve is tipped to open the port. It returns straight to close as soon as pedal pushed. If the spring is weak, damaged, missing or the rubber is hard, damaged or anything floats in the fluid and gets caught under a valve sealing surface there is no valve, no sealing, no pressure and no brakes. This has been reported to have happened very suddenly--good brakes the first stop and none the next. The best recommendation would be to have the unit thoroughly checked and rebuilt by one who is extremely familiar with them and knows what to look for. They also have some parts not in the rebuild kit re-manufactured -- but only for their own use. There are some names on site. Barring that, check for any sign of pitting on the shaft, replace at the slightest indication and use a quality rebuild kit with fresh rubber. Check the small compensator valve spring very carefully for any signs of weakness or corrosion and make sure the end of the stalk is on the correct side of piston end ridge or lip when reinstalling--otherwise it will be broken off.
Posted on: 2010/4/12 12:48
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Will do, thanks very much
Posted on: 2010/4/12 12:57
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I am having great difficulty replacing the LR brake drum on my 39-120. I had to use a heavy duty puller to get this drum off as the brake shoes seemed expanded and I could not retract them as the star adjuster was installed backward and could not be reached through the adjusting slot. The springs were installed backwards as well.
This car was "restored" and has several problems with the axle and seal that lead me to belive it was never driven. Are all the rear brake shoes the same (length) or could someomeone have put 2 primaries on one side and 2 secondaries on the other side (which slips on easily)? If there IS a difference, which is the longest, pimary or secondary? CAN't move. Lowell
Posted on: 2010/5/18 15:17
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Short shoe towards front of the car.
Posted on: 2010/5/18 15:42
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Thanks for the quick and concise answer.
Lowell
Posted on: 2010/5/18 15:45
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Since the brakes were obviously but together in a questionable manner. I would recommend checking to make sure you actually have the right size shoes in general. Never know what someone could have thrown in there.
The sizes should be listed in the Specification section of the Service Manual.
Posted on: 2010/5/18 23:02
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-BigKev
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