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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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To do a 5V USB-C charger from scratch you only have to do roughly this.

USB-2.0 is even simpler, just connect power and ground, and short the data pins.

The data pin short, btw, is so the connected device doesn't try to "connect" to the power port. It detects the short (in that it simply receives every data packet it tries to send) and hence knows that it's connected to a charging port.

Yes, PCB manufacturing from scratch is a bit pricey but for something this simple it would, I think, still be in the single digits per board if you buy a small quantity. The main reason against doing that is that the off-the-shelf solution is satisfactory.

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Posted on: 11/15 14:19
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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Apple products require a signal on the data pins and without it they won't charge which I discovered when I put in solar powered USB ports in our offices and den during our remodel. It was easy to remedy but a pain to have to do so. I guess that's their way of making sure you use their chargers!

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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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Huh. Yes the D+ and D- lines must be held at 2.7V to support 12W charging (at least for USB 2.0).electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/ ... ow-are-the-d-and-d-lines-configured

Not hard; just take high precision pair of 39k and 33k resistors between 5V and ground. Or 43.2k and 49.9k, ideally.

Posted on: 11/15 15:40
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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It's not as simple as just supplying 5v. The various protocols actually adjust voltage as well. This module will only supply up to 1v below input voltage. So on a 12v car, with 14 volts input at speed, it could supply up 13volts. Which is enough to support "Super Fast Charging". On a 6v car suppling around 7.5 volts st speed, that would 6.5 volts, which supports "Fast Charging" on most devices. But that voltage increase is based upon the phone/device negotiating its supported charging protocol with the controller chip in the charger. Otherwise it falls back to 5v, which is slow charging.

On my Samsung Galaxy Ultra S24 phone, if I have it in GPS navigation mode while driving (screen on, consuimg broadbard data, and GPS receiver), the phone will drain faster than it can charge on a regular slow charger.

Posted on: 11/15 17:46
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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Kev,
Add me to your charger list
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Posted on: 11/15 19:48
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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Thanks everyone that is interested. It's progressing along.

I got the case design finalized and ready to run on my 3D printers. I have 1/2 waste paper basket full of prototype cases.

But I have a design that is compact and can either be double-sided stick taped to a surface or mounted with screws. The screw mounting "ears" snap on and off depending if someone wants to use then or not.

Just waiting for the shipment of ICs to come in from overseas. Then I can verify everything fits as designed and then solder up the wiring, and start putting them together.

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Posted on: 11/19 20:03
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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It doesn't photograph very well because of the flash and the color/texture of the 3D print. But it for sure looks better in person. Also this was printed at "medium" quality. As it faster for prototyping. At high resolution it should have a smoother finish.

Posted on: 11/19 20:18
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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Depending on things, I would likely try to see if I can work some type of magnet or clip to it that might attach to the bottom of the dash of my 39. Guess I'll see when they are ready and go from there.

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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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I had considered a magnetic mount, but it would then move around when plugging and unplugging the USB cable.

3M Command Adhesive strips would be my choice to use. They hold very well to smooth surface and come off cleanly without leaving any sticky residue. But not sure they would hold if vehicle interior got very hot in the summer.

Posted on: 11/19 20:45
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Re: Universal USB Car Charger Project
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Quote:

BigKev wrote:
It doesn't photograph very well because of the flash and the color/texture of the 3D print. But it for sure looks better in person. Also this was printed at "medium" quality. As it faster for prototyping. At high resolution it should have a smoother finish.


Just hold one outside when the sun is out and grab a photo. Sunlight = best light.

Posted on: 11/19 22:10
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