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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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There was a old repair on the back edge of 1 of the front fenders that had metal overlapped. Both the fender and the patch had rusted out again. I made a new piece of metal put a slight curve in it butt welded it and painted it.

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Posted on: 2022/12/18 14:40
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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Looks good!

Posted on: 2022/12/18 18:44
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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Wow, that repair turned out great! Excellent job.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2022/12/18 23:21
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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Thanks for the kind words. I installed a battery disconnect and made a battery cable to go from the disconnect to the starter. Also i took the car for about a 20 mile ride. Since I didn’t have my od cable hooked up I just wire tried the lever on the side of the trans so the overdrive would not work. I shut the engine off at my brothers house when I went to restart it the engine would not start. All the electric stuff in the engine compartment is new not sure what to try to get it to start easier. The engine was cranking but just wouldn’t start.we jumped it I drove home and put it in the garage.

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Posted on: 2022/12/19 14:54
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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I know it is not that easy to do on a car with coils having the armored cable but when hot you might check the voltage at the coil terminal coming from the ignition switch before and then when the starter is cranking.

Assuming it is not a fuel issue such as a flooded engine, if there is something causing a large voltage drop and the voltage supply to the coil is significantly less than the 6.3 standing battery voltage -- down in the range of 5v or less -- when cranking, the spark could be so weak plugs are not firing reliably and the engine will not start.

Insufficient battery capacity, too small of cables, corroded, rusted, or age oxidized and otherwise dirty terminals, poor contact inside the ign switch and a dragging starter pulling excessive current have all been identified as causes of coil voltage drop. Badly adjusted timing is another cause of a lot of strain on the starter causing it to require high current and pull voltage down.

Posted on: 2022/12/19 15:13
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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here is a list of things that were done over the last 6 months or so. alot of these things were done because the car had sat for 43 years, New plugs , plug wires, cap ,rotor ,condenser vacuum advance, new ignition switch new coil. .Rebuilt starter But im not so sure about that. The add says it was rebuilt .When the engine runs it runs around 165 to 170 degress at back of engine. I checked it with a temp gun. No pinging on hills. Seems to have good power. Also new 2/0 battery cables from battery to starter. new Groupe 2 napa battery with 675 CCA. Next time I get it running I will check the voltage going to the coil.

Posted on: 2022/12/19 15:59
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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Had the car running the other day took it for a quick ride since someone was at home to tow me If the car stalled. got it up to 170 degrees parked it in the garage shut it off. Left it sit for 2 minutes and tried to restart it. It would not start. I checked the voltage to coil cold and hot the same readings. 6.1 volt before cranking. while cranking 4.75 to 5 volts.I also put a spark plug on the end of 1 of the spark plug cables it was sparking white in color. I also looked down the carb to see if gas was dripping in the engine there was none. I also pulled the plug out of the side of the carb to check float level no gas came out .I hit the throttle and 2 solid streams of gas came out. The coil im using is brand new and says no exteranl resistor required.it is a uc-14 I also tried the original coil on the car when it was hot after cranking and cranking it finally started but I dont think the original coil is any better.

Posted on: 2022/12/21 15:48
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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I recently had a situation like this, and what had happened is that when I reconnected the vacuum line to the vacuum advance after doing some work that required I get that line out of the way, I rotated the distributor unknowingly and threw off the timing. I could get it to start, but not easily, but it seemed to run fine afterwards, with the exception of pinging when hot, which is how I noticed it. Perhaps your timing is off?

Posted on: 2022/12/21 16:13
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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its possible the timing is off. I tried setting it with a timing light and the car will not run at all. There is no pinging on hills and it has good power also it dose not overheat runs around 165 to 170 degrees so I dont think its to far off. I am probably going to try to set it using a vacuum gauge. Im not sure I remember how to do that so if anyone knows please let me know.

Posted on: 2022/12/21 19:00
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Re: 1941 Packard 160
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There is this very good and valuable video by Ross Miller that shows how to set the initial timing without even starting the car, worked very well for me:

Speedwell Garage - Packard 8 Distributor Install and Setting Timing

Posted on: 2022/12/21 20:22
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