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Re: GearRat's '52
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Wow! Have seen some worn clutch assys but don't recall ever seeing one quite that bad. At least you found the reason for the engine doing 60mph and the car doing 10.

Posted on: 2012/9/12 14:25
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wowza!

Posted on: 2012/9/12 14:37
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Re: GearRat's '52
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Wow! Have seen some worn clutch assys but don't recall ever seeing one quite that bad. At least you found the reason for the engine doing 60mph and the car doing 10.


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wowza!


Right! I can't tell you how glad I am that the clutch disk itself is so worn. I was worried I'd find oil leaking on to the assembly. I wonder if someone was learning how to drive in her, or if it was from the 1/4 mile my brother drove her. He may be a more experienced driver than I am, but when it comes to driving a standard I think I have the upper hand. LOL!


-Garrett

Posted on: 2012/9/12 14:57
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GearRat, That is an impressive clutch assembly. Looks like you will need a complete kit. Nothing there worth saving. All new parts (pilot and release bearings, disc, and pressure plate) and flywheel refacing will help to assure you will not have to do this job again, at least not very soon. Do it right the first time.

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Posted on: 2012/9/12 15:13
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Re: GearRat's '52
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GearRat52 wrote:...The throw-out bearing seems to be fine, still have to figure out where my pilot bearing went. As you can see, the pressure plate face has a little groove in it, probably be able to get it machined. The clutch disk appears to be in re-build able condition.

Next step is to get the flywheel off to be re-surfaced...
Garrett,

Check the throw-out bearing by cleaning it up and rotating it with finger pressure. Should be smooth with no bumps! Saying that I'd still opt for a new bearing, better to be safe.

What do you mean by "have to figure out where my pilot bearing went"?

Think you'd be better off with new pressure and clutch plates. Think there should be interchanges from commonly available parts. Someone more experienced(Ross?) may be able to advise.

Before you take the flywheel off make sure you mark it and the crank so it goes back on the same way it came off. Otherwise if put back on in a different position it will affect the balance of the rotating assembly of the engine!

Posted on: 2012/9/12 15:59
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Re: GearRat's '52
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What do you mean by "have to figure out where my pilot bearing went"?





Hey Mal!

When I got my clutch out, the pilot bearing didn't come out with it. Maybe it fell when I took out the assembly, but I looked under the car and didn't see it. I'll have to crawl under there tomorrow and find out where it went.

Will a newer style clutch like this preform less smoothly than the Packard clutch? This one has 5 springs, where the one off mine has 8.

-Garrett

Posted on: 2012/9/12 16:30
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Re: GearRat's '52
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GearRat, Strongly recommend you get a new release bearing. While it may seem to be okay now, the garage gods will take action to make sure that it starts making noise just as soon as you finish the job. If you don't believe me, just ask Murphy.

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Posted on: 2012/9/12 16:33
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Re: GearRat's '52
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What do you mean by "have to figure out where my pilot bearing went"?





Hey Mal!

When I got my clutch out, the pilot bearing didn't come out with it. Maybe it fell when I took out the assembly, but I looked under the car and didn't see it. I'll have to crawl under there tomorrow and find out where it went.

-Garrett


I believe the pilot bearing generally stays stuck in the crankshaft recess -- particularly if it hasn't been removed in ages. If it appears in good condition, be careful if removing. IIRC, Fred Kanter said 51-4 pilot bearings are special size Packard only and not generally available at the parts store. Believe there was a poster recently who turned a bushing out of brass instead of getting another ball bearing. Know he had some other issues with the car & don't remember hearing how that finally worked out.

Posted on: 2012/9/12 16:41
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Garrett,

I believe one of the "common" brands, either Chev or Ford will fit but, as I said, will leave that to others more experienced in those matters. The raw measurements, ie, clutch disc diameter together with input shaft diameter and number of splines will give you a guide.

All good advice from John and Howard. Personally I'd opt for a new throw-out bearing and with that you'll have to press the old bearing off the collar and the new one on but it'll give peace of mind.

Posted on: 2012/9/12 17:43
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Re: GearRat's '52
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Hey Guys!

Quick question, is the spline diameter 1-1/16" on the trans input shaft?

Posted on: 2012/10/17 13:43
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