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Retainer and Clip Sizes
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Trying to gather up all the clips and retainers I need for to reinstall the belt line moulding back on the car after paint. Almost all of my clips were rusted away. So going to start fresh. The problem is that the Parts List does have any description on the clips/retainers as far as size. It took me awhile just to figure out what part numbers I would even need. So does anyone know the type and size for the following clips and retainers? Also am I missing any P/Ns?

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Posted on: 2013/2/19 16:47
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Re: Retainer and Clip Sizes
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I can't tell you how many times I've wished the 1948-1954 Parts Manual had a 'Group 50' like the 1935-1941 Parts Manual has. The value of having a drawing, and the detailed specs for every single nut, bolt, screw, fastener, seal, etc. is huge.

Posted on: 2013/2/19 17:42
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Re: Retainer and Clip Sizes
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Tell me about it. Even the 55-56 had one of those sections. I guess I am just going to have to measure the trim and go with my best guesstimation.

Posted on: 2013/2/19 17:59
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Re: Retainer and Clip Sizes
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I had the same problem but had a few rusty remains of clips etc to go on. I haven't installed the belt line trim yet so don't know for sure whether clips I bought are correct.

Suggestion is that you order just one or two of each of what you think are correct from Restoration Specialties Catalog or you can send them samples if you have them (which is what I did). They ship fairly quickly. Catalog also has illustrations that are 'same size' as the part.

Posted on: 2013/2/19 19:03
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I think I have clips on my trim, but the doors are frozen solid on my car. Here are pics of the clips I have access to. When my hand warms up, I will take pic of the other clip where the spear is on the fender. Sorry the pics are blurry but it is cold outside!!!

First pics are the clips that run the length of the long trim piece that connects to the spear on the front fender.

The spring looking clip is on the front door next to the front fender.

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Re: Retainer and Clip Sizes
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After so many years and possibly a repair or removal or two, it's not a given that what is there now is what was there originally as far as type. Some of the old clips and sizes are NLA and universals will have to be used now.

On the long straight strips, frequently there are two types mixed. Generally the spring wire type for the majority and particularly if the trim is hard to access from the back. Even if hard to access there is usually one or two of the stud or bolt on type clips strategically placed to cinch down and prevent the long trim piece from shifting. Particularly important on the doors where slamming could make the trim move a slight bit.

If the trim is totally accessible such as in the front fender or trunk then frequently only the stud type. Those in the trunk area usually had a rubber gasket around the stud for waterproofing.

Posted on: 2013/2/19 19:30
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Here is the clip that would be under the front spear head. It has the edges bent around, not straight like the others. Camera died but width is 1/2".

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Re: Retainer and Clip Sizes
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Thanks guys. From what I understand and remember, if the holes are round, it takes a clip with a stud and a nut/seal on the backside. If the hole is square, then it takes a push in wire style clip.

The problem is that the trims are different between models and years. So unless someone knew the sizes of those exact part numbers, or the size for the trim off a '54 Deluxe, it may not be the same. Guess I just need to measure the trim at the various locations and figure out the width needed. I will report back.

Posted on: 2013/2/19 23:59
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