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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Packard Don
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Thank you, Howard. That’s what I suspected and I think I have another with the single wire if I can find it. I also have the single-wire one here with the rubber cover but it’s gear is totally different than the other. Even though it has only a single wire, its number is also BK322097 but maybe the second wire is tucked under the boot.. No EC, of course, since my car is a 1951.

I noticed also the the angle of the gears between the two is different. One angles one way; the other angles the other way.

Come to think of it, there was one on the replacement transmission but in terrible condition that might lend some clues! It was from a Henney Junior, though, so not sure of the rear end ratio or even how much that matters.

It’s 15 degrees out and the power just went out but its our main breaker rather than the actual power! Something is tripping it.

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Posted on: 2023/1/29 13:38
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Looking online for Bendix BK322097 governor, I’ve not found anything definitive but places selling it indicate Packard. They show it without the gear, though, so I am not sure which gear it should have as the one on mine is far longer than the other one I have. At only 17 degrees out, I’ve not yet made it to my shop but will head out a little later and try to find the one off of the 1954 Henney Junior transmission.

Posted on: 2023/1/29 14:54
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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The wire colors for a 50 two wire governor is Green/Yellow for EC and Yellow for OD. If you have no EC that wire is unused and coiled up out of harms way. 51 and later passenger car governors just had one wire because there was no longer an EC option.


Thinking about what Howard said, since the senior Henneys used the pre 1951 transmission, maybe they did have the two wire governor. If that’s the case, or even if it’s not, that will probably mean that mine will have the shorter gear.

Posted on: 2023/1/29 14:58
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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I pulled the governor from the parts transmission but it has no numbers that I can find so possibly an aftermarket replacement. Its gear and shaft are different yet from the other two but, as the entire tail and overdrive assembly are different, I am sure that this is not the proper one and that it’s the pre-1951 type that I need. I also have an NOS one somewhere, probably with the solenoid, but neither is anywhere to be found and I’m not sure which type it is.

This time I remembered to bring out my propane torch from the house (my mother uses it to light the pellet stove) and it did the trick in getting off the rear shift arm. It still took a lot prying, then when it was out too far to pry, some hammering but eventually it came off! I’ve never encountered those so tight before and they are tight on the other shafts too. It needs to be cleaned up before I can install it which I’ll do tomorrow after I refill the propane tanks.

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Posted on: 2023/1/29 18:28
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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When I got up this morning it was 2f out and, as I ran out of propane yesterday in the short bit of work I needed to do, I’ll need to go into town shortly to fetch some. It’s a balmy 19f now so definitely some heat is needed although when I went out there yesterday, it felt warm inside compared to outside. Point is, not sure what, if anything, I’ll get done today, especially as the power is also out at the moment and the propane heater won’t work without it. Even the house where I am staying is chilly as it hadn’t fully heated up before the power went out.

Posted on: 2023/1/30 14:24
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Baby steps! The second shift arm and solenoid are now installed! As I mentioned, the arms are very tight but that’s better than sloppy as the old ones were. The rear seal is due to arrive tomorrow sometime if UPS keeps its schedule.

On the solenoid, the manual indicates the point during assembly at which to install it, then the next step shows it gone. Also it is shown off when the transmission is installed into the car.

On the governor, it appears that to replace one of the wires, it would mean removing one of the settings screws as the wire is under it. Any thoughts on that?

Apparently the area where the adjustment screws are was originally filled with some kind of hard sealer. What was it?

Also, did the governor originally have a boot over it or was it left open to the elements? Did it have a seal under it?

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Posted on: 2023/1/30 22:37
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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When the new rear seal arrives, should it be soaked in oil before installation and if so, for how long? I believe it is NOS rather than reproduction which means it has leather with cork as a secondary part of the seal but I’m not sure.

Posted on: 2023/1/31 15:06
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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The new seal arrived late today and I was ready for it with the housing already in the press and a piece of steel tubing to press it in by the edges. I forgot to clean the bolts and it was too late by then so I’ll install the housing in the morning.

Instead I managed to put away a few things and tidy up a bit after finally properly powering the receptacles at the right half of the shop which until today had been powered by way of a long extension cord from a left side receptacle.

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Posted on: 2023/2/1 2:07
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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It was quick work getting the overdrive assembly buttoned up with more time spent finding the proper bolt than doing the actual work! Between two transmissions, one would think that there would be plenty to choose from but that wasn’t the case as many were incorrect. In fact, one was even chromed under the grey paint!

All the bolts still need to be torqued and maybe the whole thing painted since there is now much bare metal. It’s even already rolled over on the stand to where the car itself is so I need to find a way to get the engine lift over there too to put the transmissions onto the transmission jack.

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Posted on: 2023/2/1 21:24
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Looking good! Transmissions scare me. I've never messed with one before and have no idea what's involved. Seems yours is coming along nicely.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2023/2/1 23:53
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