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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Ernie Vitucci
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Good afternoon Kevin...I wonder what Uber would charge you. Might not be much more than the crate, Insurance and shipping...Just an idea...I have an ex son in law in Phoenix that drives for them...How many miles to your house from Tucson Packard? Ernie in Arizona

Posted on: 2/20 16:33
Caretaker of the 1949-288 Deluxe Touring Sedan
'Miss Prudence' and the 1931 Model A Ford Tudor 'Miss Princess'
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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kevinpackard
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Ernie - Funny you should mention that, because I'm thinking on similar lines. I'm considering driving down there myself and bringing the windshield back up. It's a 22 hour drive, but at least I can make sure the windshield makes it back in one piece. I'm going to have to take a day off work to do so, and get through a grueling drive there and back within 3 days so I can get back to work.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2/20 19:30
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Ernie Vitucci
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Hi Kevin...You are going to be pretty tired when you get home...I live in Scottsdale...If you need a cup of coffee as you go through our area...we should arrange to meet for 30 minutes or so to give you a break...more than two hours sitting at one time...not good for the body...I'll even run down to Tucson Packard! Ernie in Arizona

Posted on: 2/21 11:04
Caretaker of the 1949-288 Deluxe Touring Sedan
'Miss Prudence' and the 1931 Model A Ford Tudor 'Miss Princess'
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Joe Wareham
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Kevin,

My Chevy windshield came by truck rather than UPS or FedEx along with a couple of fenders and bed parts. Packed very well!

Joe

Posted on: 2/21 11:07
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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PackardDon
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Be sure to get directions to Tucson Packards - the mailing address isn’t it and be sure that Mike knows you’re coming. It’s a home rather than a storefront.

Posted on: 2/21 11:31
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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JWL
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Here's a no good deed shall go unpunished story. Years ago I needed a windshield for my '66 Corvair. I located one in very good condition on a junk car. It was free for the taking. Struggled for a couple of hours with a friend to free it from the donor car. Finally got it out without damaging it. When we got ready to leave, I placed it between the front and back seats. I got in the car, another Corvair, and when I sat down the seat back moved and cracked the newly freed windshield. Disappointed to say the least. I had an auto glass shop replace my Corvair's windshield with a new one. It was expensive and no insurance to help pay. Lessons learned.

Posted on: 2/21 11:59
We move toward
And make happen
What occupies our mind... (W. Scherer)
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Re: KPack
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kevinpackard
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Still working out details of how I'm going to get down there. Hopefully I can do it in the next couple of weeks. In the meantime I have made some progress.

Project
: Headliner Installation

I got the urge to try the install today because it was the first day we've had in a while that hit 50 degrees, and I had some time at home. I was able to get my garage up to 70 degrees, which allowed the material to relax and make it easier to stretch and pull.

Here are the steps I took:

1.) Pull on the centerline to the front, pulling against the back (bow #8 is clipped in place). My windshield is out, but it can be done with the windshield in place.

2.) Place contact cement on the metal, then pull the headliner and place it on the fresh cement....this will mark the general location for placement of contact cement on the headliner. Apply to both metal and headliner. Let tack up for a minute or two.

3.) Pull and stretch the centerline first, then start working out to the sides. Proper tightness can be measured by tapping a finger on the headliner panel closest to where you just stretched....it should by firm like a drum.

4.) Once the front is somewhat stretched, go to the back and stretch towards the rear at the centerline. Work outwards the same as the front.

5.) On the sail panel (hardtops), pull on the #8 seam and stretch it down. Glue in place, then go and finish the rear window side curvature. Make relief cuts as needed.

6.) Work seam by seam back towards the front, using a hair dryer to soften the material and make it easier to stretch. Pull and glue in the way that removes the wrinkles.

7.) When working on each seam, first check the listings on each of the bows (the cloth sleeve that bow sits in), and trim it back a bit with scissors. Typically they are too long and are too close to the ends of the bows. This will cause the headliner to bunch up at the curve. Trim the listing so it's at least an inch or two away from the end of the bow. This will allow the corners to pull smoothly.

8.) I ended up with some wrinkles in the front around the visor area. I saw before all this that my front bow (#1) was misshapen, but I didn't do anything about it because that's how it came off the car. I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be that way or not. Getting those wrinkles out is proving to be a bit of a pain.


At this point I'm going to let it sit overnight and I'll take a look at it tomorrow. I'm going to try and do a bit more work along the front corners and smooth things out a bit more there.

I'm pleasantly surprised with how it turned out. It's definitely not perfect, but I'd give it a solid 8.5/10. Once I wrap this up I can start putting the trim back inside and clear off my shelf space.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2/23 0:44
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Dads 56
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Looks good!

Posted on: 2/23 6:45
1956 Packard Executive 2 door hard top (5677A)
1956 Clipper Deluxe Touring Sedan (5622)(parts car)
1955 Clipper Deluxe (basket case soon to be scrapped)
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Re: KPack
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kevinpackard
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Did a bit more on the headliner tonight. Cut off most of the excess using a razor blade, then started putting the cleaned and polished trim back in. Cutting the holes for the courtesy lights was terrifying. I was disappointed that some wrinkling occurred when I mounted the lights back in place. Not sure there is anything I could have done/can do to change that.

Still need to wrap up the front.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2/24 0:22
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Tobs
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Looks great! Don't worry about that area by the dome lights. You will never see it when driving The window tracks and fuzzies might be easier in your hardtop than in my coupe with B pillar since most of those parts are straight in your car. Keep up the good work!

Posted on: 2/24 5:34
1953 Clipper Delux Club Sedan, 1969 912, 1990 Miata, 2009 Ford S-Max.
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