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Re: KPack
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I'll check it at the line going to the vacuum advance instead.

That may not work either. Packard usually used a port on the carb for the timing advance that had an opening in the carb above the throttle plate. That is why you can usually check and set timing at idle without disconnecting and plugging the advance line. When the throttle is near closed like it would be when checking vacuum at idle the measurement at the advance port will be very low if not near zero so the advance mechanism is not moved. Some have for various reasons re-plumbed the advance to use the port at the manifold instead of the carb and if your car is one of those then it would work.

If it was checked by removing the hose connecting to the fuel pump vacuum outlet port and inserting the gauge in the hose or tubing end, that should be a direct line going to the junction block on the intake manifold. As long as the hose and connections are tight it should be a reliable spot for a reading.

Posted on: 3/18 22:17
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I'll check it at the line going to the vacuum advance instead.

That may not work either. Packard usually used a port on the carb for the timing advance that had an opening in the carb above the throttle plate. That is why you can usually check and set timing at idle without disconnecting and plugging the advance line. When the throttle is near closed like it would be when checking vacuum at idle the measurement at the advance port will be very low if not near zero so the advance mechanism is not moved. Some have for various reasons re-plumbed the advance to use the port at the manifold instead of the carb and if your car is one of those then it would work.

If it was checked by removing the hose connecting to the fuel pump vacuum outlet port and inserting the gauge in the hose or tubing end, that should be a direct line going to the junction block on the intake manifold. As long as the hose and connections are tight it should be a reliable spot for a reading.


Makes sense Howard. Yes, the carb has the vacuum line to the vacuum advance, and it makes sense that it would not be pulling vacuum at idle.

The line I used is the one that comes off the junction block on the manifold port, going to the vacuum canister in the driver's fender. That's essentially the same as using the line to the vacuum pump, correct?

-Kevin

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It is except there is a check valve in the junction block at the manifold that connects to that hose. The valve is there to keep a residual supply in the canister to be able to operate the brakes a time or two when engine is off. Not sure what the opening spec is for the valve but I doubt the vacuum reading after the valve would be much different than the reading before it you would get if you checked at the fuel pump hose..

Posted on: 3/18 23:18
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It is except there is a check valve in the junction block at the manifold that connects to that hose. The valve is there to keep a residual supply in the canister to be able to operate the brakes a time or two when engine is off. Not sure what the opening spec is for the valve but I doubt the vacuum reading after the valve would be much different than the reading before it you would get if you checked at the fuel pump hose..


Good information, thanks. Next time I warm it up I'll check from the line to the pump.

Posted on: 3/20 11:07
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