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Re: KPack
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I'll check it at the line going to the vacuum advance instead.

That may not work either. Packard usually used a port on the carb for the timing advance that had an opening in the carb above the throttle plate. That is why you can usually check and set timing at idle without disconnecting and plugging the advance line. When the throttle is near closed like it would be when checking vacuum at idle the measurement at the advance port will be very low if not near zero so the advance mechanism is not moved. Some have for various reasons re-plumbed the advance to use the port at the manifold instead of the carb and if your car is one of those then it would work.

If it was checked by removing the hose connecting to the fuel pump vacuum outlet port and inserting the gauge in the hose or tubing end, that should be a direct line going to the junction block on the intake manifold. As long as the hose and connections are tight it should be a reliable spot for a reading.

Posted on: 2023/3/18 22:17
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I'll check it at the line going to the vacuum advance instead.

That may not work either. Packard usually used a port on the carb for the timing advance that had an opening in the carb above the throttle plate. That is why you can usually check and set timing at idle without disconnecting and plugging the advance line. When the throttle is near closed like it would be when checking vacuum at idle the measurement at the advance port will be very low if not near zero so the advance mechanism is not moved. Some have for various reasons re-plumbed the advance to use the port at the manifold instead of the carb and if your car is one of those then it would work.

If it was checked by removing the hose connecting to the fuel pump vacuum outlet port and inserting the gauge in the hose or tubing end, that should be a direct line going to the junction block on the intake manifold. As long as the hose and connections are tight it should be a reliable spot for a reading.


Makes sense Howard. Yes, the carb has the vacuum line to the vacuum advance, and it makes sense that it would not be pulling vacuum at idle.

The line I used is the one that comes off the junction block on the manifold port, going to the vacuum canister in the driver's fender. That's essentially the same as using the line to the vacuum pump, correct?

-Kevin

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It is except there is a check valve in the junction block at the manifold that connects to that hose. The valve is there to keep a residual supply in the canister to be able to operate the brakes a time or two when engine is off. Not sure what the opening spec is for the valve but I doubt the vacuum reading after the valve would be much different than the reading before it you would get if you checked at the fuel pump hose..

Posted on: 2023/3/18 23:18
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It is except there is a check valve in the junction block at the manifold that connects to that hose. The valve is there to keep a residual supply in the canister to be able to operate the brakes a time or two when engine is off. Not sure what the opening spec is for the valve but I doubt the vacuum reading after the valve would be much different than the reading before it you would get if you checked at the fuel pump hose..


Good information, thanks. Next time I warm it up I'll check from the line to the pump.

Posted on: 2023/3/20 11:07
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Making progress!

I'm going full speed ahead on the door panels. The upholsterer sewed up my pleated panels for $75, and they turned out great.

The first panel was a bit of an experiment to see how it would work. I had thoughts on how I would do it, but putting those into action was interesting. There were definitely some things I learned on this first one. And there were a couple of mistakes. Thankfully they are not easily seen. I definitely need to work on my corners though....they are not as straightforward as I had hoped.

This was a good learning experience. I'll get going on the passenger door tomorrow night and hopefully finish quickly.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2023/3/27 23:04
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Very nice, Kevin!

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They look superb!

Posted on: 2023/3/28 7:26
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Thanks Don and Kev. It's definitely an amateur job but still looks presentable. I was worried that the 1/4" scrim foam would make it look too puffy, since the original had nearly no padding. However I have to say that I like the look.

-Kevin

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Looks good, definitely.

Posted on: 2023/3/28 10:58
'55 400. Needs aesthetic parts put back on, and electrical system sorted.
'55 Clipper Deluxe. Engine is stuck-ish.
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Work continues on the door panels. These things take a long time to do. So many panels that need to be measured out and cut, then mounted one at a time, trimmed, stapled, fit the stainless, then on to the next. The passenger door panel took me four hours today.

I'm learning things as I go along and hopefully getting better with each try. The result is not nearly as good as a professional can do. But for never having done this before I'm pleased with how it's coming along.

I also redid the passenger door armrest. It was in very rough shape and stunk to high heaven once I took it apart. After lots of cleaning I was able to get the smell out. Wrapping new vinyl was difficult, but turned out well. The plastic was faded and discolored but I polished it the best I could.

I mounted the panel and test fit all the other pieces with it. I'm missing two of the round plastic and chrome pieces behind the levers, so I'll need to locate more to finish the job. I only have two springs remaining as well. I'm not sure I will need the springs though, since the padding under the vinyl pushes out on the levers. I'll find something to use as a retaining rod and see how it does.

-Kevin

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