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Re: A German Pacific
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The current PAC directory shows 27 of the 54 Pacifics in the hands of members. A rough guess, 2-3 times that number are probably around, though some of those will be in parts-car condition or less. The 54 Pacific is, in my opinion, a very fine Packard and well worth investing effort in.

Hopefully we all recognize that price guides are just that, "guides", and can be notoriously misleading. That said, a fairly current one says the Pacific values range from $4250 for POOR, $9700 for "fair", $28,000 for "very good" and $38,700 for a 100-point, professional restoration show car.

Posted on: 2009/3/8 17:28
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Re: A German Pacific
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Guscha wrote: Two weeks ago a German Packard owner, his name is Kurt, registered his Packard at the website of my friend - but I think, here is the right place for his Packard........Until now I don't know more then that he owns a 1954 Pacific 2dr Hardtop coupe........

Gerd,
Please extend our to Kurt from PackardInfo and our for allowing you to include his '54 Pacific in the Owner Registry here. Although I note your reference to his english and computer skills, if he could be registered as a Forum member that would be even better.

Posted on: 2009/3/8 19:34
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Re: A German Pacific
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Ha! I'm excited to have some more packards nearby (140 km from me)! I see Power brakes, Auto trans....Almost the same color scheme as my 'lowly' clipper... Now I'm starting to get jealous and wish I had a higher end model ?
As a refernce point: When I imported my Clipper and had it appraised by ADAC (German AAA), it was valued at 7,200 Euro with a 'zustand note' 3 (condition grade)
Note 1 -highest grade for a clipper was 16,000? A Pacific should be higher...
Cool!

Posted on: 2009/3/9 12:21
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Re: A German Pacific
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German Packard enthousiasts are also welcome at the:

SPCN 10 Years & 2009 European Studebaker-Packard Meet,
15 to 17 may in "De Lutte" in Holland. It's a couple of miles from the German border. Have a look at:

http://www.studebaker-packardclub.nl/page28/page32/page32.html

In die N?he von der Grenze mit Deutschland gibt es im Wochenende 15 bis 17 Mai 2009 einen "Studebaker-Packard Meet".

Bitte kommen Sie mit Ihren Packard, ich werde sicher auch da sein! Weitere Info auf die Website von die SPCN.

Tom
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Posted on: 2009/3/9 15:00
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Re: A German Pacific
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I saw some pictures from Kurt, and his car has a 288 head, reading the pacific build information, I see these cars had the 359 nine main engines.
I know the 327/288 heads interchange, but can you do that with the 359? I guess the engine was swapped...

The car also has no backup lights. I know this was an option, but it seems like every car I see has them installed. Am I just not so obeservant?

I still remember the guy from the moving company in the US asking me about my packard, 'you gonna drive that thing on the autobahn?' LOL
-Mike

Posted on: 2009/3/11 13:04
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Re: A German Pacific
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No, not necessarily an engine swap. Almost all of the 359 aluminum heads at one point or another failed; the 327 head is the most practical switch but a 288 head would fit. But I'd hate to think what the compression ratio would be!! Even with a 327 head on a 359 some re-tuning, modifying the centrifugal advance curves, or using export or extra-thick headgaskets is almost always needed, along with higher octane gasoline.

Posted on: 2009/3/11 13:10
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Re: A German Pacific
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He's also got a 2bbl Carb. That's making me think 288. I'll ask him to get the numbers from the side of the engine to be certain.

Posted on: 2009/3/11 13:24
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Re: A German Pacific
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The car also has no backup lights.


The backup lights in 54 were integrated into the tail light assy. Isn't there a clear lens below the 2 red halves?

Posted on: 2009/3/11 13:36
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Re: A German Pacific
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Ah, could be integrated there, kind of a V shape under the 2 red bulbs?

Funny thing, another packard showed up here in the neighborhood! For sale! Who brought all these pacifics to Germany?

http://tinyurl.com/cpv662

Posted on: 2009/3/11 13:40
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Re: A German Pacific
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That's correct. I think it nicely balances off the taillights. The other Pacific looks to be in need of several correct front end pieces. Don't know the exchange rate but 12999 euros seems a lot (without correct pieces) and then the 2599 for something else.

Posted on: 2009/3/11 13:50
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