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Our '37 Super-Eight LeBaron Town Car had a hot air heater, but when I got the hulk in 1978 the only parts of the heater were the control nob on the instrument panel and the valve in the firewall.
Is there anyone out there with the heat exchanger and the fan?
The system was possibly used on the '35-36 models also, and the '38.

I would really appreciate a photo.

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Posted on: 3/13 21:35
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This popped up on the AACA For Sale Forum a couple of days ago. Don't know if it would suit your application,

Posted on: 3/13 23:27
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Bob, you'll find the attached old article of mine relevant to your inquiry, and I've learned a bit more about the Kelch units in the subsequent years.

My 1934 Packard has the remains of a factory Kelch installation, I've had it since the 1960s and have been looking unsuccessfully for a replacement heat exchanger for all those years, to my knowledge it has never been available as a reproduction part. As permanent antifreeze with it's higher boiling point and cylinder head thermostats came into use, dealers were more than willing to offer replacement hot water heaters. I later learned that the exchanger tubes which were in actual contact with the exhaust gases were made of monel or stainless.

Kelch heaters were also used in Cadillac, Pierce Arrow, Duesenberg, and other high end cars.

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Posted on: 3/14 6:45
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Looks like a good thing for Carbon Monoxide poisoning if there is a leak in the exchanger.....

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Not really John. I initially shared your thought but as I noted and later learned, the heat exchanger tubes in contact with the exhaust were corrosion-resistant, either monel or stainless. The outer wrap of the exchanger however was just mild steel and it's eventual failure was probably what brought owners back to the dealerships for replacement with hot water units.

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Not sure what the big deal is. If you are so intent on this option, make one. I once had a boat-88 merc IO 3.7. Had a heat exchanger all brass with stainless or aluminum end caps removable . Looked like this. Tubes inside. Cut holes in end caps-tug on exhaust connectors of your size.
That would be tig as in weld. Auto correct

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Posted on: 3/14 14:03
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Many thanks for the posting of the article. I have moved a couple of times since 2000 and unfortunately, my collection of magazines is now in disarray.
Also, I still have hopes of finding someone with an original car with the Kelch still installed and get a photo to include in my forthcoming book on the '37 Seniors.
I have located both the '34 and '37 registers, but did not know which was correct for '37....but then, maybe the LeBaron owner specified the '34 because of its directional control?!?!?!

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