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My 39 money pit’s engine
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I am going on record as saying that If I ever buy another project where someone has already started dismantling the car...have me committed.

The engine on my car was partially dismantled by the prior owner/ owners and I opted to pull the engine and trans and have the engine rebuilt, replace the clutch, pressure plate , water pump , fuel pump and other misc parts.

The builder is a friend and has done engines for several of my other cars but he does not rush and the engine has been with him for over two years and got picked up today.

Several issues came up that should have been discovered and dealt with a year or more ago...and will now delay installation.
(1j Does anyone have a good picture of the clutch bell crank attachment showing the spring locations and how the unit attaches to the frsame. There is a bolt and large nut like unit with lubricated washers.
( 2) .there is a worn leather boot over the fork. .does anyone sell a replacement?
(3) There is a large hole on the passenger side rear of the block near the bell housing that was open when the engine was pulled. Nothing in the parts supplied to fill or explain it( picture attached)
(4j the fuel pump that came with the car was single diaphram with glass fuel bowl. Not attached to engine and according to Kanter not right for 39 six engine. Replacement pump from Kanter ( dual diaphram...no glass bowl ) will not mount to engine . It is possible that engine was replaced at some point. Photos of castings snow numbers that hopefully can be identified by Owens system to clarify( photos attached)
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
RJ R

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Posted on: 4/28 20:56
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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(1j Does anyone have a good picture of the clutch bell crank attachment showing the spring locations and how the unit attaches to the frsame. There is a bolt and large nut like unit with lubricated washers. - Sorry can't help
( 2) .there is a worn leather boot over the fork. .does anyone sell a replacement? - I think I got mine from Max
(3) There is a large hole on the passenger side rear of the block near the bell housing that was open when the engine was pulled. Nothing in the parts supplied to fill or explain it( picture attached) - The "road draft tube" mounts there.
(4j the fuel pump that came with the car was single diaphram with glass fuel bowl. Not attached to engine and according to Kanter not right for 39 six engine. Replacement pump from Kanter ( dual diaphram...no glass bowl ) will not mount to engine . It is possible that engine was replaced at some point. Photos of castings snow numbers that hopefully can be identified - Month/year 8/38 probably indicates early production '39 year. If '38 engine I'd think should substantially be the same.

Posted on: 4/28 21:48
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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I have a '37 and a '40, both with sixes; both have glass bowl fuel pumps. I haven't pulled them both to compare, but they look pretty similar to each other as I recall.

Posted on: 4/28 22:49
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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1937 and 1940 6-cylinder fuel pumps may possibly interchange but they are not identical, different part numbers.

Posted on: 4/29 7:08
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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The Shifter Lever Boot Assembly can be had from John Ulrich.

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Posted on: 4/29 7:58
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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Bear in mind these clutch bell housing photos are of a '40 Super 8 356 engine. Note, the lower photo is a Before photo.

Maybe easier to check this thread. Howard HH56 provided specs for a clevis pin.
https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/mod ... &order=ASC&status=&mode=0

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Posted on: 4/29 8:07
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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Not sure if the road draft tube on a 6 is similar to the valve cover ventilator tube on a 356, but here's a pic of mine.

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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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Double diaphragm pump is correct.

The road draft tube is held on with a u-shaped clip and a single bolt and lock washer.

Good luck!

Posted on: 4/29 8:32
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Re: My 39 money pit’s engine
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Hi RJR,

When I R&R'd my engine a couple of years back, I had some issues with the cross member and ended up having to take that 'large nut-like unit with lubricated washers' apart and in trying to move it out of the way, the springs got away on me. I posted on the site for help and this thread: https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/mod ... =brake+and+clutch+springs
Has some pictures of the springs and their attachment points - might be of some help. I tried getting under my car today with the camera, but I currently have the rear end jacked up and the fuel tank out, so couldn't get a 'good angle' on the springs for you. See if this helps, if not, I can take some more pictures once I get the tank back in. Chris.

Posted on: 4/29 19:14
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