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Packard advertised four-barrel carburetors in 1953, but key start was not introduced till 1954. Did the 53 four-barrels have start switch on them? I have never paid that much attention to the differences between 53 and 54. Would one of you 1953 owners care to comment??

Did the 53 four-barrels have start switch on them?

The 53 models had an early version of "voice command" with speech recognition software.

No, seriously - 1953 still used the Carter starter switch on the carburetor. IIFR the suffix after the Carter carburetor number designated whether it was with or without the intergrated starter switch.

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Looks like it.

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Yes they did. JD's photograph does a very nice job of showing it. I have two spare carbs new in the box rebuilds that came with my car. Unfortunately they were in the trunk and caught a lot of moisture as the car sat thirty years. I can make close up photographs of the switch installation to carb if you would like them.

I have certainly used "voice command" in the past..... "start you @#)($#(##*#$%$er". Always worked.

Randy, they're pulling your leg. Real support has to be of value. Please find attached an extreme close-up of a detail in the Ross/JD photo which could be helpful to you.

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Attached the 1953 Service Counselor vol. 27, no. 1 on the subject of the "WCFB-Carburetor Model 985S".



[source: Packard Literature and Manuals - Service Letters, Counselors & Bulletins]

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I used the expletive @#)($#(##*#$%$er" once and the damn door locks wouldn't work anymore AND the car started emitting CO even when it wasn't running. I have since become much more careful in my choice of language.
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Gerd, they should be careful pulling my leg.
They will get the same result as when pulling my finger.

Owen_Dyneto wrote...

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1955 and 1956 WCFB models for Packard applications are 2232S and 2394S, respectively; the 1955 WGD is 2393S. Yet, none of these carbs have such a switch.

I believe that all model numbers for Carter carbs ended with an "S".

Looking over the parts lists included in the Carter carb sheets that I donated to this site, the "S" suffix appears to be applied to part numbers for assemblies. Then, any alpha characters following the "S" were used to identify a significant design change - like alpha notations on an engineering drawing.

He's a dog in the manger, isn't he? S like starter, S like switch, S even like starter switch, S like, whatsoever, near to perfect with an almost natural and especially soothing sound.
And now? S "like alpha notations on an engineering drawing."

Randy, if you interested in the history of science then ok but otherwise ignore his completely unromantic list.