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The latest not so good news 1936 Packard pan removal
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KMcoldcars
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Today I removed the flywheel/clutch cover, removed the bracket that goes under it, and removed all the pan bolts. The pan is stuck in place, probably some sealant that was used when it was put together. I then noticed 2 about 3 inch pieces of rubber hanging down from behind the rear of the pan. I gave them a little pull and this 7 inch long piece of rubber came out. Looks to me like it is the lower half of a rear main seal.
The flywheel/clutch cover was oily inside and out, although the flywheel and clutch mechanism appears to be dry, and the clutch still works very smoothly.
I guess I will need to pull the engine to put a new rear main seal in or can this be done without removing the engine?
Picture of the offending rubber piece.

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Posted on: 2020/11/18 1:07
1936 Packard 120 convertible sedan
1916 Ford Model T Coupelet
1962 Thunderbird
2000 Corvette convertible
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Re: The latest not so good news 1936 Packard pan removal
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The good news is that your engine does not have a rear main seal. It relies on a slinger on the back of the crankshaft. That strip is just to seal between the clutch cover and the back of the pan.

Further to your other post: Since you have the fenders off and away why not just unbolt the front motor mount arch from the frame and jack the motor up an inch or two? That will ease getting to the pan bolts and clearing the steering.

Posted on: 2020/11/18 7:59
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Re: The latest not so good news 1936 Packard pan removal
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Its probably a good idea to remove the radiator and check your water distribution tube as well, while you have stuff pulled apart.

Posted on: 2020/11/18 9:35
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Re: The latest not so good news 1936 Packard pan removal
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Thank you for the good information about the oil slinger. Today I spent 3 hours with 4 long screwdrivers and a hammer getting the engine pan loose from the block. Whoever put the engine together used a sealer that acted like a very strong glue.
I am taking the rest of the day off as we are doing a very small 78th birthday celebration for me this evening.
Tomorrow I have a visit with my oncologist and then a visit with the Dr. who will do my radiation. Then later in the day a small number of family members will be over for my birthday. The day should end much better than it will start.
Friday I will get the engine hoist out and lift the front of the engine so I can get the pan out. Wish me luck.
A picture from 2010 of old guy with Packard.

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Posted on: 2020/11/18 18:55
1936 Packard 120 convertible sedan
1916 Ford Model T Coupelet
1962 Thunderbird
2000 Corvette convertible
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Re: The latest not so good news 1936 Packard pan removal
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Hi KMcoldcars,

Very nice looking Packard; Happy Birthday and best of luck on your treatments and recovery. Having your car to tinker on is probably a welcome and worthy diversion! Chris.

Posted on: 2020/11/18 20:57
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Re: The latest not so good news 1936 Packard pan removal
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If I could add to Ross's reply, although there is no rear seal as you might exspect there is a rear main cap seal which consists of two wooden sticks one on each side of the cap which prevents oil from leaking around the sides of the cap. mine was m missing these sticks and leaked a bit. you can easily unbolt the cap and clean the slinger area and drain slot in cap then install the cap and sticks. also the crank slinger has an area behind it that is sort of threaded which causes any oil that travels beyond the slinger to travel back to the slinger and not back toward the flywheel.
Dick

Posted on: 2020/11/18 21:21
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