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Hood Ornament question
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Greeting all, I was hoping to get some assistance. I have what I believe to be a Packard Swan hood ornament/radiator cap. However I cannot find a photo of the exact style and was hoping for some help. I have attached the photos and if there is any other information you need, please let me know.

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Posted on: 2023/2/17 17:01
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Packard A History of the Motor Car and the Company by Kimes shows the bird on page 764 with a round base, it states the wings should be 1 1/2 inches apart at tips and optional on 11th to 15th series.

Posted on: 2023/2/17 20:05

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Those are "cormorants" not swans according to the sources. Minor detail.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 9:05
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Through 1937 Packard called them Pelicans.
Pic from Accessory catalog for 1937

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Posted on: 2023/2/18 11:46
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Here is what appears to be the same ornament but with a different cap. This photo is out of the 31 accessory book. Don't have all the books but those I do have show essentially the same ornament but with completely round bases. The bases do have slightly different edge treatments but so far, unless it is an optical illusion, have found none with what appears to be flat side areas like in the original posters photo.

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Posted on: 2023/2/18 12:09
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Thank you for the information. I was able to find the image online, but the base seems to be different and I have not been able to find that specific shape. It is a 12 sided polygon (dodecagon). I wasn't sure if maybe this was reattached to a different radiator cap or if this was from a specific year. I noticed the inside of the mouth/beak is red as well.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 12:10
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Packard obviously did not know its birds. The bird ornaments are a swan not a cormorant nor a pelican. The cormorant is on the Packard shield. I don't know where in the world these became identified as a pelicans. No matter, it makes no difference these days. Call them what you want, that's what Packard did.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 12:49
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Quote:

JWL wrote:
Packard obviously did not know its birds. The bird ornaments are a swan not a cormorant nor a pelican. The cormorant is on the Packard shield. I don't know where in the world these became identified as a pelicans. No matter, it makes no difference these days. Call them what you want, that's what Packard did.


I think the pelican reference comes from a heraldic description of "a pelican in her piety" feeding her young by plucking from her breast.
While it looks like a swan, I don't think Packard ever called it such.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 13:19
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They never called it a swan as I know but here on the California coast where I live, great numbers of cormorants can be seen sunning themselves on rocks and they often do so holding their wings high just as we see on the ornament. We see pelicans too but if they sun the same way, I’ve not seen them do it.

Whether urban myth or not, I had read that it was Earle C Anthony who first used the term cormorant while in Detroit and the name stuck.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 14:19
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