Re: Who is going to be in Warren Ohio next weekend
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Is that the 21st?
Posted on: 2007/7/12 21:24
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-BigKev
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Who is going to be in Warren Ohio next weekend
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Plain and Simple: Who is going to be attending the car show, at the Packard Museum next Saturday.
Is the Packard V8 Club going to have an East Coast Meeting there? Rain or Shine I will be there, hope to see the same people I did last year and many more. John F. Shireman
Posted on: 2007/7/12 20:50
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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At least it doesn't have the extra weights/dampeners that some of prewar cars had in fenders or end of front bumper. There were a few articles/fixes on cowl shake for 22nd series which apparently had different frame members, extra fender bolts and radiator brace as well--all to be correctly tensioned and tightened with no missing bolts.
Posted on: 2007/7/12 9:57
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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Randy, my 56 Caribbean, a "late" (post #250) car, has the brace on both sides and I do believe the parts book calls for 2 per car so I think that clears that up. As to the really good question of whether its use was related to the heavier hoods used on Caribbeans, it would be enlightening to see if the 51-54 standard convertibles, and the 53-54 Caribbeans, had the same bracing. I think we'd all enjoy some feedback on this.
As to the fiberglass hood that was observed, the only postwar Packard I'm aware of that used a fiberglass hood was the '54 Panther Daytona and with only 4 made, I doubt there were many spares produced.
Posted on: 2007/7/12 8:46
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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Just 2 cents worth and agreeing with Owen Dyneto, the hood of my 54 Caribbean is steel /lead and much heavier than my 53 Clipper steel hood. I would suggest that the brace is an absolute necessity given the lever effect of the modified heavy outer hood (scoop) end, and the marginal upward push of the standard hood springing. Peter Toet
Posted on: 2007/7/12 3:16
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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You are probably right. I could have sworn about a year ago there was a fiberglass hood on eBay advertised being for a Caribbean.
Come the think of it (trying to remember back), that eBay hood did look more like the 53-54 styled hood. Maybe it was an old proto-type for one of the showcars.
Posted on: 2007/7/11 23:31
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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I'm quite certain the 53/54 Caribbean hoods were modified standard steel hoods, with the air scoop section added and leaded; thus the need for the hood support rods. 1955 hoods may indeed also contain considerable lead as they too have the support rods which 1956 Caribbean hoods don't; 56 hoods are VERY much lighter than 55s. Someone who has stripped a 55 hood in the course of repainting could confirm this.
Posted on: 2007/7/11 22:23
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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BigKev -
Actually, the 1955-56 Caribbean hoods were steel stampings. Not sure about 1953-54 Caribs, but the 1955 Packard Request show car had a fiberglass hood.
Posted on: 2007/7/11 21:56
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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Randy & Robert -
There was barely enough room at my offsite storage to get to my Carib Hardtop to get another part that Randy needed study for his car, but I think I can clear this up from my chair. I cracked open the good old factory parts book and started scanning thorugh the body section looking for things unique to the Carib. No luck in the "Front Fenders" subsection, but I found something interesting in the "Radiator Grille & Splasher" subsection. Check out Group 30.874932 for a "Radiator Side Splasher to Frame Brace". The hardware listed seems to match details that Randy provided to me (privately), and there is a LH and RH version of the brace. Also, this bracing is used only on 5588 and 5699 (convertible) body styles, but NOT the 5697 (Hardtop). Actually I'm not surprised about that since the Caribbean Hardtop body is essentially a Four Hundred shell. So, there's probably no need to check my Carib. I think Robert is right about the purpose of this brace. When I have had my Hardtop up on a lift or four jackstands, I see a change in the gap between the trailing edge of the door and the leading edge of the rear fender. I can only imagine how much more the deflection would be on a car without a fixed roof. Hence, this is very likely one of those things that was added by the factory to accomodate an open car configuration. I'm sure there are other measures employed throughout the convertible body and chassis. My only explanation for the lack of the RH (passenger side) brace on Randy's car might be an omission made during some past collision repair.
Posted on: 2007/7/11 21:47
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