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Re: V8 oil Pump ID?
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Posted on: 2012/2/26 19:56
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V8 oil Pump ID?
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I opened up the 1955 marine V8 today. Curious if the oil pump is the standard Packard variety with a solid base or perhaps the Nash/Hudson version? The casting number on the side is 471083 and the number on the bottom plate 471007. Also notice the enlarged oil pan with a copper cooling coil and custom windage tray. I guestimate the capacity to be perhaps 3 gallons. After I clean it up I'll measure and post the results.

Posted on: 2012/2/26 19:53
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Re: 352 Crankshaft
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Were PRODUCTION built golden hawk 56J's with Packard V8 all have forged cranks????
Other than a better bottom plate for the oil pump without the vacuum pump, the '56J was in every respect a standard 1956 275hp 352" with a cast steel crank.

To date, I've never seen a production engine which could be verified as having been built with a forged crankshaft. Until we get something different in print from the factory, the 1959 date for introduction of the forged crank as a service part is still the one I believe.

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I would agree with Jack. I have a late production 374 Service Long Block/Crate Motor with a cast crankshaft and a bellhousing casting date of 7/26/56 that was in a 1956 GH (obviously a replacement motor). The production date would indicate it was manufactured after the 56J and 56 Packard Seniors were out of production and SP had moved on to the 1957 model year cars.

Posted on: 2012/2/26 14:30
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Re: April 13th Deadline
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By the way, has anyone had a "REALLY" hard time getting their rear drums off? I rented a jaw type puller from autozone, and made some brackets to attach to the lugs. The brackets I made are about 1/8" to 3/16" thick. Even with those brackets being that thick, they are getting bent by the force of the puller. With all that force the drum doesn't even budge. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

-Garrett


If the car is driveable, loosen the axle nuts about 1/8 inch and drive around in figure 8's. If not, loosen the nuts and with the tires on get a few friends to vigorously rock the car side to side. A few figure 8's at slow speed has worked for me in the past on tapered axles.

Good luck!

Posted on: 2012/2/8 12:46
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Re: Trailer for Packard
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D-train wrote:
Just as a note... The haulers for the auto manufacturers put the cars in park, with the parking brake on. A manual trans is put in reverse with the brake on also.

But I guess that someone can question the drivelines on the older cars.

For me personally, if I ever had straps snap, come loose, or unhook, I would prefer the "pig" on my "rig" (as we call it) to be in gear (beyond a parking brake). I feel a little bit safer with that. Just my opinion.

Good luck,

Mark

Hi Mark,

I believe most new car transporters use chains & binders attached to engineered anchor points on the frame (or underbody) of modern cars. This cinches them down tight and so little movement is possible that I doubt that driveline strain or loading would be a problem. Without those anchor points, we are pretty much limited to using the axles as tie-down points on our older cars. As well as HD ratchet straps, I always set one safety chain front & rear with a few inches of slack in it.

Posted on: 2012/1/29 21:18
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Re: intake manifold?
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I looked into the 228 head that I was thinking to put on the 327 ,they cost about 500.00 for an iron one ,the edmunds reproduction aluminum head is made by empire motors in el paso ,i asked them for a price ,the advantge is heat dissipation ?


Just curious....what type of iron head are you looking at for $500? The advantage of an aluminum head is more show than go on a flathead 8. Packard had one on the 1954 359 senior engines and they were problematic, especially if the coolant wasn't maintained or if the engine overheated.

I also recall some problems with Empire a while back regarding filling orders in a timely manner. Maybe things are better now but you might want to do some homework before committing.

Posted on: 2012/1/28 22:36
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Re: 352 Crankshaft
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ok. So Studebaker used only (or a large number of) forged cranks in production Studebaker engines????? If answer is yes then most likely that is new news to alot of us.


Not sure about the 6 cyls, but all Stude V8's from the 232 thru the 304 had forged cranks & rods as well as gear driven cams. Also 5(?) head bolts per cyl. One article I read said the original designers back in 1949-50 anticipated that future higher HP output would be achieved thru higher compression ratios and they planned accordingly. Dick Dotson, Ted Harbit & others have teased 600+ HP out of stock blocks & bottom ends using high boost single & twin turbos with good reliability.

Posted on: 2012/1/27 21:21
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Re: Trailer for Packard
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Fred, most "newer" trucks with a trailer/tow package have a dedicated charging wire in the trailer harness to keep aux batteries in the trailer or camper charged.

Of course this only comes to play when the trailer is attached. I like the idea of a solar charger for when the trailer sits idle.

Posted on: 2012/1/27 15:59
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Re: 352 Crankshaft
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Maybe just "urban legend", but I've heard more than once that the forged cranks are found more often in the Hash engines. I'll soon be opening up a 1955 marine conversion engine and it will be interesting to see which oil pump and crank is inside.

Posted on: 2012/1/27 13:58
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Re: Trailer for Packard
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I second O_D about leaving the car in neutral. I've been told that the constant fore & aft lurching of the car while underway can put unwanted strain on the driveline. I use 4 heavy duty ratchet straps attached to the front and rear axle points so the suspension of the car is free to move (as designed).

Also, HF has some adequate and reasonable priced winches that would do the job for occasional use:

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=winch

I have both an open flatbed and an enclosed trailer with Ramsey winches, but at today's prices I'd probably look at less expensive brands as they don't get used that often. I think you will find that a separate dedicated battery is required to operate the winch rather than trailer wiring.

Posted on: 2012/1/27 13:46
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