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Re: Hood Ornament question
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Fish'n Jim
Those are "cormorants" not swans according to the sources. Minor detail.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 9:05
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Re: Top Speeds
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29tons
there is various RPM calculators on the internet that will tell you your speed and rpms. Just add your rear ratio tire size and overdrive ratio it will tell you how fast. Some of them are easier to use than others.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 4:53
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Re: Top Speeds
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su8overdrive
Good advice.
And you the very man who set the 1940 Hudson speed record mentioned in my first post above.

Posted on: 2023/2/18 0:28
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Re: BigKev
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BigKev
I used one on each side, so two per shaft. The passenger side fought me. But it's together.

Posted on: 2023/2/17 22:47
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Re: Top Speeds
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JohnCobb
My car is also a '39 Six with the original motor (I believe) no overdrive, I've cruised it for over an hour at 45 - 50 and back in Highschool 50+ yrs. ago, took it to 60 a couple of times but wouldn't do that these days. I think 50mph is a safe number for a long distance.

Posted on: 2023/2/17 22:37
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Re: BigKev
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HH56
How many washers did it need to take up the space and did you use one on both sides of the channel.

Posted on: 2023/2/17 22:10
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Re: Top Speeds
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su8overdrive
John Fogarty/CCR-- The single best thing you can do for a Packard, any old car, is add overdrive, which is better than a high speed rear axle alone, because you reserve around town and steep hill tractability, it easier on your clutch/pressure plate. Since your car left the factory without overdrive-- first available in Packards your year -- you'll have a slightly taller final drive ratio than one delivered with overdrive. Far better in today's world, since in 1939, high gear flexibility was the mark of refinement, people liked to get into high and leave it there, and speed limits vastly lower.
In short, it's hard to overgear a Packard, but a real drag to run out of gears and you can always shift down or kick it out of overdrive.

Jeff Adkins, Moose Motors, Penngrove, CA, (Petaluma, in the North Bay Area) will have what you need. (707) 792-9985, packardguy54@sbcglobal.net. Tell him Mike Scott referred you. Tho' your car's optional overdrive was mechanical R-6, the electrical R-9 of 1940 through early '48, R-11 later '48 through '54 are better, R-11s slightly simplified, more plentiful so less money.

You'll have a car you can easily cruise 60-70 all day, less engine wear, better fuel economy, a more relaxed proposition, no downside.

A runner up for best thing for an old car would be radial tires.

Otherwise, double aught (00) solid copper battery cables, available at any big rig supply house, ends crimped and soldered, battery disconnect switch, the Cole Hersee brass marine sort available at any NAPA store or online ideal, rated for far more amps than your starter draws. Mount it on the floor just in front of the driver's seat. Avoid the cheap battery post mounted switches which require opening and closing your hood.

Flush with alcohol your brake system, use only DOT-5 silicone brake fluid since it is non-hydroscopic; will not draw moisture from the ambient air, which is what corrodes master and brake cylinders. Regardless of brand, all made by Dow-Corning. The USPS and military fleets use nothing but.

Part of a complete tune up in the day was checking head and manifold torque. Do so engine warm with accurate torque wrench. Do not overdo, esp. the manifold nuts because you want it snug but able to expand and contract.

Make sure your manifold heat control valve free. Introduce some graphite powder via kerosene to work it into both ends.

Drive car, relax. Your engine was flogged night and day in heavy 141-inch wheelbased 1948-50 bathtub New York City taxis, in boats 1947-51, after that in White trucks, a durable little mill. If never exposed to a hard freeze (two consecutive nights below 30 with wind chill factor), avoid antifreeze like the plague. Use only reverse osmosis water, available in gallon jugs at CVS, Rite Aid, etc. and a good rust/corrosion inhibitor like www.no-rosion.com or Red Line Water Wetter. For all you need to know about cooling system health, read the tech link on No-Rosion's site.

Like all inline sixes, your 245 is in perfect inherent balance. A wise auld mechanic's approach was to adjust valves .007-.009 intake, .010 -.012 with a go/no go feeler gauge since a trace of valve click better than scorched valves.
I long had a '40 One Twenty and the six essentially the same minus two cylinders and it ran like the wind. Your old body style has better ergonomics than the Clippers.

In the day, a Packard service dept. in most good sized towns, and any general garage able to adjust valves, aiming for dead silent valve train understandable, but even then, smarter to set them a trace loose. Once done, you can forget about them. You may be okay already, but check them.

10W/30 motor oil, any name brand, no ZDDP additives necessary since zinc levels back to where they were in the '70s and you can search for expanded debunking of that in the tab upper right home page here.

Keep it simple. There are some knowledgeable gents here who can provide specific info on any facet of your '39 Six.

In answer to your question as to personal speeds, be prepared, if you get answers, for the usual testosterone bump ups. Again, common sense. Listen to your engine, "feel" your car. I once got 22.5 mpg from my '40 120, 4.09 per non-overdrive models(in place of stumpier 4.36 & OD), 2.95:1 overall OD engaged, Denman bias plies 32 psi cold inc. much 65 mph cruising. Yes, really.

My '47 Super, having the 356 engine, is a slattern, a lush. With 1941-42 Buick Century/Roadmaster, 1940-47 356-engined Packards w/ OD on standard 127" wb the only cars of the Forties able to best the ton off a showroom floor. Being comfortable at 70+ is mute, unless empty roads, because brakes that were good then, even into the '60s, no match for today's four-wheel power discs w/ ABS driven by distracted, texting, cellphone nattering folk w/ no conception of the most basic physics.

Posted on: 2023/2/17 21:25
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Re: Hood Ornament question
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Dell
Packard A History of the Motor Car and the Company by Kimes shows the bird on page 764 with a round base, it states the wings should be 1 1/2 inches apart at tips and optional on 11th to 15th series.

Posted on: 2023/2/17 20:05

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Re: BigKev
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BigKev
Got all the non-stainless parts of the window frame painted and got the vent wind rubber glued in. Also replaced the window run channel.

With all that done, I was able to get the windows back in. Never a fun job. But it's finally coming together.

Just need to put the vent window crank mechanism back in place.

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Posted on: 2023/2/17 20:03
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Hood Ornament question
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Dawn Shirley
Greeting all, I was hoping to get some assistance. I have what I believe to be a Packard Swan hood ornament/radiator cap. However I cannot find a photo of the exact style and was hoping for some help. I have attached the photos and if there is any other information you need, please let me know.

Have a great day!

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Posted on: 2023/2/17 17:01
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