The reason I had a tool made to pull on the CAST part was that I saw one damaged when trying to pull against the sheetmetal ring. It also puts undue stress on the rubber. The ring on mine had come loose from the rubber and was rotating against the timing mark which was the reason I had to remove it in the first place. You may not consider it sheetmetal but it is rather thin steel and as I said I saw one damaged by pulling on it. Fortunately my balancer was not cracked, but I exerted
considerable force in removing it. I ran a flap wheel inside it to clean it up before reinstalling it after getting it back
from Damper Doc. And I have never seen the Packard tool but it is obvious that they felt it should not be designed to pull on the ring and stress the rubber but pull on the backside of the cast iron.

I use the Dexron/Mercon in both the Ttwin-Ultra and the PS. I have NO high range clutch groan except maybe on rare occasions during cold weather below 20 dregeer F.

The trans had A LOT of high range groan when i first got the car and a few other occasional operational problems. These problems have all but disappeared by about 90% AFTER i changed to the Dexron/mercon and it took about 6 months for the groan to leave.

There is about 20K miles on the trans now with the Dexron/Mercom fluid. It works just fine.

Those of u satisfied with the type F should stay with it and not change. I doubt that it makes any difference.

In some cases, harmonic balancers can be pryed off of the crank using two tire irons. I've done and seen it done. HOWEVER this only works when the balancers are not a real tite fit on the crank. Also one must be very careful about what opart of the engine is pryed against and a wooden block placed under the pry bar to keep it from damaging the fron cover.

I do NOT recommend the prybar method. But it does work when used JUDICOUSLY in SOME (meaning NOT all) cases.

Jack. I've removed 3 or 4 of the Packard V8 balancers just like u do. BUT, the 3 or 4 i removed came off rather ez with minimal effort and i did NOT use an impact. Probably only required 60 to 70 ft-lbs of torque to turn the screw on my home made universal puller.

However, Randy Berger IS correct relative to the tool in the book. I've never seen the factory tool in person but a close look at the pic in the book looks like it is not pulling against the outer ring at all but has an additional step that grabs behind the ridge of the hub where the TIMING MARK notch is cut.

I see no problem in pulling on the outer ring IF no more than 60 or 70 poundes of torque are required. Even still, the outer ring sets with in about .010 of the pulley and the rubber ought to give that much.

The only problem with pulling on the outer ring is if the balancer is unually tite on the crank.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO element of the Harmaonic balancer that contains ANYTHING that resembles sheet metal IN ANY WAY. The OUTER ring of the harmonmic balancer is the Outer ring and it is a STEEL ring or billet ring or cast ring or forged ring. It is NOT sheet metal.

Jack, I am not referring to the pulley that you can remove when the bolt is pulled out. I am referring to the sheetmetal behind the main pulley that several people tried to pull on and damaged it. It is the cover for the rubber that is vulcanized to the cast-iron balancer. Are you saying your three-jaw puller can securely grab the cast outer pulley and hold it while you pull? Mine would not maintain a grip and would slip off that main pulley. The Packard tool goes completely around the balancer and pulls on the cast-iron, NOT the sheetmetal that surrounds the rubber.

John, Thanks for the information. The next time I am in Windsor I will go and look and see if there are any remnants of building and take some photos. I know the neighbourhoods where the plants were located and grew up less than a mile from them.. Great information, many thanks to you and "Owen".

Clipper47. I am sorry that it took me so long to get the answer to your question. I had to go through alot of books that I have, before coming up with an anwer for you.

The information that I have states the assembly plant was located in Walkerville. The plant was opened in 1931 at Chatham and Church streets. In 1933 the plant was relocated
to St. Luke Road. Packard closed the operation in 1939.


John F. Shireman

Mal: The assembly building that was hit twice by the Huns in WWII was located in a different part of London. I believe the picture in the dealers section was just the showroom William's.

The assembly building was located in West London at Great West Road.

john F. Shireman

"owen" Thanks for all that information. I look forward to whatever other information you might have about the Windsor, Ontario operation.