Hello and welcome to Packard Motor Car Information! If you're new here, please register for a free account.  
Login
Username:

Password:

Remember me



Lost Password?

Register now!
FAQ's
Main Menu
Recent Forum Topics
Who is Online
30 user(s) are online (17 user(s) are browsing Forums)

Members: 0
Guests: 30

more...
Helping out...
PackardInfo is a free resource for Packard Owners that is completely supported by user donations. If you can help out, that would be great!

Donate via PayPal
Video Content
Visit PackardInfo.com YouTube Playlist

Donate via PayPal

Forum Index


Board index » All Posts (jdlpdx)




Senior Sabotage?
#21
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
In an idle moment I went surfing through the web and wound up on the Wikipedia's article on Packard. In the section dealing with the immediate post war years the relate a story of why the Senior Bodies of 1940 were not brought back after the war. It states that when the factory went over to full war production the body dies and tooling were literally left outside to the mercies of Detroit weather. Consequently, they were unusable. If I remember right Christopher was President of Packard by then or very close to it and given his "love" for the Seniors it sounds like something he'd order.

Has anyone else heard of this version?

Posted on: 2015/9/13 23:21
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#22
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
Quote:

HH56 wrote:
The only way I can see that the gas could get to the top of the pump from the filter bowl or from anywhere else via the tubing is if the diaphragm has a pinhole allowing the gas to get on top of the diaphragm and run out the air vent. There is a small hole in the top casting directly below the part bolted to the engine which is open to air. Possibly fuel could be running out that hole and laying on the pump if it got on top of diaphragm. If the diaphragm does have a problem it needs to be corrected before fuel gets into the engine.


Good God! Thank you Howard, I never even considered that possibility or consequence! No more driving until I get that sorted out! Pulling the dipstick and taking a wiff of the oil sounds advisable too.

Quote:

The way the filter is constructed the tube from the pump opening is in the casting at the very top. Not likely there would be any siphoning. If the diaphragm is good have you positively ruled out a crack in the glass and fuel is dripping on the engine and then running down onto the pump?


I am really wondering about that diaphragm. I got started on this because the engine at steady speed felt like it was running out of gas. Push down on the pedal, and it smoothed out. That said, I haven't look that closely at the glass bowl. I will definitely do that as well.

Howard, over the last five years, you have saved my posterior more times than I can count. Thank you yet again.

Posted on: 2015/9/12 21:40
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: question(s) regarding starting circuit super clipper 2126-2151
#23
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
That is one very good looking Packard! It's the first one I've seen with the rear quarter window blanked out. Really excellent. I think the Clippers were beautiful cars.

I'm hoping to drive my '55 to my 50th reunion next summer as well. Good luck. You'll get all the info you need here.

Posted on: 2015/9/12 21:31
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#24
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
I just remembered what else I was going to ask.

Can anyone tell me how much power steering fluid that system holds? By "that system" I mean the Bendix on the 1955 Seniors. The power cylinder is leaking and while I plan to buy a new one, I'd like to put that off for a while I've bought some Bars Power Steering Stop Leak which states that one bottle treats up to 3 quarts. I've looked in the FSM, The Power Steering Booklet and the 1955 Chilton's Repair Manual with no luck. The booklet mentions when drain the system, a two quart container should be used but that's for the '53 & '54 system though I imagine it's probably still valid. But the right amount to put back in would make me feel more comfortable.

Posted on: 2015/9/12 21:07
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#25
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
Actually, there are two parts to this one.

First, the fuel pump. I haven't gotten much done as temperatures here have been in the mid to upper 90s, again. However, I did check all the connections I could with the pump still on the car and they are all tight. Not with standing, the rim around the pump is full of gas and the car hasn't been driven in 48 hours. Also, the fuel level in the glass filter bowl has been dropping. It was about half full yesterday and today is down to about a quarter of an inch. I know O_D said that there were two check valves in the AC pump that prevent fuel from flowing backwards but I doubt very much if the gas on the rim is coming from the tank.

I think I'm going to modify my plan and wait to see what happens when the fuel filter bowl is dry - probably tomorrow. If the gas on the rim disappears I can only think, given what O_D said, that those two check valves need to be ------ checked!

As for the second part, I'm damned if I can remember what I was going to ask! It looks like my mind is evaporating in the heat along with the gas.

Any comments from you all would be gratefully accepted.

Posted on: 2015/9/12 20:53
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#26
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
Well Drat!!

Thank you once again Owen,for your fast response. I guess the next move is to check the fittings to make sure they're tight. If they are, then I'm at complete loss as to how this gas is getting on the rim of the Fuel Pump. I mean there is nothing else it can be but gas as I'm running a 50/50% mix for coolant.

I guess the next step is to take the pump off the car and check the rest of the screws. If those are tight I'm out of ideas.

I've gotten to the place where I was going to order a complete engine gasket set for the '51 Patrician but it looks like now there might be another contender for that cash.

I'll let everyone know what I find out.

Thanks again, Owen.

J.

Posted on: 2015/9/10 2:21
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Packard 180, 1942
#27
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
I'll second that!

Posted on: 2015/9/9 21:25
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#28
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
This is an update on the Fuel Pump leaking problem I posted earlier.

I hadn't driven the car for 36 hours and when I checked under the hood I found liquid around the Fuel Pump again. This time though, I noticed something else. In addition to the gas around the pump, the fuel filter bowl just before the carb was half empty! It was full when parked and the pump area dry. There was enough on the rim of the pump today for a taste test and it tastes like what is in the Lawnmower tank.

It looks to me like the gas is being syphoned out of the fuel filter bowl and maybe providing the leak around the pump? I looked at the fuel filter bowl on my '51 200 Deluxe and even though it had been parked longer than the '55 Pat, it was full

Is this just a coincidence or is my guess have some foundation in truth?

Please let me know any thoughts you might about this.

Jim

Posted on: 2015/9/9 21:19
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#29
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
I've been considering that, but the last time I received word from their website; they couldn't be sure that I would be able to use my WW knob in the OE place. If your set up does that, I'd love to know about it.

The other thing is that on my cars I like to keep things as designed as possible. With the vacuum can I'm very close to flawless performance. However I use them so seldom that I have had moments when I've had to get out of the car and "assist" the wipers until they could work on their own. I mean, if I wanted to stand in the rain, I could have walked to the store. If the Newport system is simply a bolt on and the switch can used the OE knobs AND provide for working the Windshield Washers I would definitely be interested in knowing.

On topic, I have something to add about the "stumbling". Yesterday when I was backing it into the garage it didn't seem to want to back up and in until I pressed down harder on the gas at which point it shot back into the garage and I barely got it stopped before I hit the wall.

I put it in drive and it sort of did the same then - probably the torque converter smoothed it out where as reverse is greared. While in the alley, I then tried Reverse again and once more it stumbled until I pressed down harder and again it shot backwards - chirping the tires this time.

Anyone have any ideas about what I should do now? The action in reverse doesn't seem to fit a Fuel Pump problem - at least to me.

Posted on: 2015/9/6 17:21
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 


Re: Fuel Pump Leaking
#30
Home away from home
Home away from home

Jim L. in OR
This is a little off topic but....

As regards to the Windshield Wipers, after I bought a new WW motor from Max Merritt Packard, my '55 Pat has had very few issues other than the WW slowing after stomping on the accelerator.

To handle that, I found a small vacuum can in one of the boxes of parts that came with the '55 or the '51 200 Deluxe. The vacuum check valve proved out good so I hooked it into the line between the vacuum T and the vacuum motor and found much to my delight, that the slowing under even very hard acceleration was pretty much gone.

For now it is attached to the heater box by one of the heater box's screws.

Here are some pictures should anyone want to try it.

Thank you Owen for your help with this and other things that have come up in the past.

Thanks also for the picture of your beautiful '34.

Jim

Attach file:



jpg  (154.79 KB)
3087_55ea1e11948a4.jpg 1280X958 px

jpg  (151.34 KB)
3087_55ea1e26769fb.jpg 1280X958 px

Posted on: 2015/9/4 17:42
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
1951 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan (parts ?)
1951 Patrician Touring Sedan
1955 Patrician Touring Sedan
 Top 



TopTop
« 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 ... 108 »



Search
Recent Photos
Photo of the Day
1933 Packard coupe, nine-tenths right side view, top raised
Recent Registry
Website Comments or Questions?? Click Here Copyright 2006-2021, PackardInfo.com All Rights Reserved