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This past week I was able to get some time at the folks place to get more work done on the patrician. I finished removing the undercoating on the floors and found a couple more rust holes, mostly where the seat tracks meet the floor. Given what I found on the floor, I should probably remove the undercoating in the trunk to insure there is nothing hiding under that as well.
I was able to remove the door glass and regulators out of all the doors. For the front the regulators were removed first, loosen the vent window, removed glass and then vent window. The rear the regulator was removed, loosen vent window and shifted the tracks to remove the glass followed by removing the vent window. I did notice on top of needing new glass for the front doors I am also going to need a regulator and motor for the driver door. for what ever reason the regulator and motor were separated from the car. Hopefully Ill be able to find one. All door trim was removed including the door handles... that was a major struggle. all but one spring clip was damaged during removal. So I am going to need to add that to the list of parts I need to find. other work included removing the hood, fenders, radiator support, and trunk lid. It is bitter sweet seeing the progress on the vehicle, while the vehicle is looking less and less like a vehicle. So I believe the next time I am should be spent removing the wiper system, remove what is left of the evaporator box, remove the under coating in the trunk, start stripping the paint in the engine bay and start cutting out the bad metal to weld in new stuff!!
Posted on: 2020/8/18 13:24
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This past week I was able to go back to where the car is located at to get some work done. I took an air needle to the underside of the car to help prepare the frame for paint and knock off any lose undercoating. I tried using it for the interior and it did okay removing some undercoating but not much. I guess I didnt need to go as far as I did but I figured I got a 1/3 off so might as well get the rest off. So I got air chisel out and went to town getting about 80% of the undercoating out of the interior. Its a good thing I did, I found more rust near the body mount in front of the rear drivers side tire.
In the process of attacking the underside I also removed the driveshaft and transmission. One thing I noticed was that one shift fork was able to shift from I believe it was 3rd gear, neutral and reverse. However the other shift fork controlling 1st and 2nd gear was frozen solid. I was going to tear into the trans anyway but hopefully that frozen fork isnt anything serious. I was told this was driven after the conversion so I guess something happened in storage since the 90's. Next projects on the car is to hopefully get the glass out of the doors, what trim I could get off the doors and the rest of the car, finish removing the undercoating from the interior and start removing the rust prone areas of the car. I think I am going to get the quarter panel from that eBay listing and at least have something to start with for repairing that section of the car.
Posted on: 2020/7/13 10:04
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Let the Ride Decide: Depending on the detail of the prints the blue prints would actually be better. The blue prints should have the tolerances that the factory says it should have while any physical part that could be used for 3D printing could not only be out of factory specification, but could be damaged, modified or simply just warped/shrunk due to age and sunlight. From the blue prints a 3D model could be created in the computer and then 3D printed.
Posted on: 2020/7/13 9:48
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Howard, thank you for that!! that makes perfect sense. This car was originally a pushbutton automatic but was converted to the manual. That explains the extra yellow wire and maybe why it was taken off the road oh so many years ago.
Posted on: 2020/7/6 22:35
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So I checked on C2C fabrication website and they dont have the rocker panel on there. I tried reaching out to them on here but did not get a response. So I will try through their website. I did find this though:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/270763383517 This week I got some stuff done. I was able to disassemble the dash completely that was in the car as well as the dash that will go back into the car. The pink dash was also an A/C dash (I was told it was from a 400) that I had to drill the holes for the power lock switches. So next I have to disassemble the column for paint and inspection. Would like to sand and paint all the interior stuff at once. I attempted to clean the door cards with a steamer. I did get some stuff out, but I am not to sure I like the results. I will try again when they dry. I also dissected the harness to replace the yellow ignition wire. It was burnt from the ignition switch to the crimp, from the crimp to the fuse box. So it got hot enough to burn the insulation off the entire wire! scary stuff. However according to the service manual there are only to be 3 wires in the ignition wire circuit crimp, but I have four... The fourth wire also goes into the engine bay, I am not to sure what it was used for but I kept it.
Posted on: 2020/7/2 9:58
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So this past weekend I was able to make it over to the parents place to get some car work done. The stuff I got done to the Patrician was a little small, but every little bit helps.
I got the passenger side door trim off (mostly anyway) and I started to dig deeper into the body. I sanded off the paint in areas that looked a little troublesome before and the only major issue I found was the passenger side rocker. I knew it was bad, I didnt know how bad it was... The rocker is not only perforated down the entire length, but also greatly dented... Needless to say it would be a lot quicker to just get a new rocker for it. I taked to Ross at speedwell garage and he turned me on to C2C fabrications for that. Ill have to see what all they offer but I am hopeful. I also got the rear end up on jacks to start cleaning the underside and figure out what I am going to do there. The entire underside is undercoated and in most areas is still adhering very well. So I am going to POR the frame and leave the attached undercoating there and chip away at the stuff that is flaking off. The areas that are bare are just going to get spot painted. Now that I am caught up on house work and hope to have the truck up and running soon I hope to get more time to work on the parts for the Patrician I have out here in Pittsburgh.
Posted on: 2020/6/24 13:46
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Well HH56... if you have some of the parts you made that are not in the best shape, and if your willing to send them over to me, I can reach out to this guy: https://hv3dworks.com/ To see if I could get a 3D scan. With a 3D scan of these parts I could easily get them 3D printed at work out of the couple materials we have here, or see if he could do them in metal.
Posted on: 2020/5/7 7:06
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Howard, do you have the drawings you made to make your molds? or maybe the 3D models? We have a 3D printer at work and I have the software to take 3D model and translate it into a readable file type for the machine to read.
It is an SLA printer that we have a couple materials I would need to find the specs on. there is also a guy in Sewickley PA (down the street from me) that has a business of reproducing trim parts for the collector car market.
Posted on: 2020/5/6 15:49
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thank you for the pointing out that rear mounting bracket. unfortunately I did not take a picture or take notice to the area where the dash once was for that bracket or those studs.
and no need to worry, the actual vents have been removed from the dash before work commenced. Well they fell out actually. The hinge has been broken on them for some time. But they still slide up and down in the openings and stay up, so at least they are functional. They are put off to the side but I guess Ill pack them up in a box and place them in a safe area, thank you for bringing that to my attention.
Posted on: 2020/5/6 12:56
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