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Re: 34 Twelve limo on eBay
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Posted on: 2008/9/2 9:29
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
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[url=http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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34 Twelve limo on eBay
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That 1934 Twelve style #735 on eBay is an interesting survivor and worth studying the pictures for details. It appears complete and relatively unmolested, though the asking $ is perhaps twice what it should bring. Of particular interest to me was that it had wooden artillery wheels, available thru 1936 but very rarely seen. Also note that it was built by Packard-Canada rather than Detroit. Vestiges of the original pinstriping are worth noting as may restorers of 34 cars seem to get it wrong. Though it is correct for this car, one would have expected real wood window garnish mouldings rather than the wood-grained metal ones such as were used on the Eights and Super Eights (though the shape is different for the 12). There are quite a few original and unmolested 1934 Packards in far better state of preservation than this one, but still an worthwhile car. Here's hoping it doesn't get hot-rodded.

Posted on: 2008/9/2 8:56
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Re: would this supercharger fit my clipper 352cid
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twin turbo...sounds dangerous to this old beast....and ALOT more work. 1....where am i going to get a exhaust manifold made or worked up to fit a T anything turbo....wow...what a job.

the supercharger doesn't have to be badass....just put out a bit at the end of the date. ;0) you know 3rd base at least! ;0P

i could go with a small centrifugal one like on my z3...which is good for well over 15 psi easy....but.....i could only imagine what would happen to the motor. i am running 10 psi on the z3. good for another 140hp and 80 ft lbs. the other problem with that is the pulleys for these newer superchargers are for v ribed belts, not single valley like on our cars. it would have to have the older pulley put on it. for the new one all i would need is a A.C. pulley to have the extra pulley and run it off that. i think an electric fuel pump hidden on the frame somewhere would be sufficient as the z3 runs on the stock one....all i used were bigger injectors on it, about 5lbs more from stock.

it would be doable with the newer superchargers heck i could probably use a roots and pop it out the hood....nah.....but i am just thinking outside the box right now anyways......in the end i just want my Packard to be done well so when i hang my hat...i can smile when i turn around and look at her in the garage.

Posted on: 2008/9/2 8:41
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
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[url=http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: ZIS 110
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Quote:

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Dear Eric,......To correspondingly quote Mal: "the current picture is more suitable to the choiceness of a Packard."


I doubt I used the word "choiceness" Gerd, but it gets the meaning across anyway. More likely to have used something like appropriate, or befitting. Curse this old-timers disease, now if only I could remember why I'm writing this?

Posted on: 2008/9/2 3:02
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Re: would this supercharger fit my clipper 352cid
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Eric Boyle
Like Jack said, Yes, No, Maybe.

Yes you can do it, but no I wouldn't use a VS57 model like that one in the pic. I used an SN60 which is a LOT better supercharger than the VS57. Check this Link out for more information on the VS57 model.

As for the SN60, I chose it because it uses the same mountings as the newer Paxton units, which are capable of a lot more boost.

As for the "maybe" part, I think that "maybe" twin turbos are a far better idea than a supercharger, which is why I'm using them on my 327. Unless you're going "Ol' Skool" of course, then the supercharger is purely for looks.

On the recurving the distributor, I'd just use my HEI conversion, as it's a lot easier to get parts to recurve a GM HEI than it is for a 50+ year old distributor, and the spark is a lot more powerful than the stock ignition, which in a supercharger application is very helpful.

On the plumbing of the fuel pump, I used a stock 292 Ford fuel pump on my Patrician, which was available brand new from the local parts store. I did have to modify it to be pressure sensitive, however. (That was actually pretty easy, IMHO)

The brackets will have to be custom made, and there's tricks to get it to mount to a Packard V8 that took 5 dedicated members of the Packard V8 club about 3 days to figure out, design, and build the bracket. There's also some things you have to do with the P/S pump, and the crank pulley to get it to work perfectly, which mine actually does, and was dependable for over a year of daily driving.

When I first put the supercharger on my car, I didn't have the fuel pump boost referenced, and couldn't get more than 35mph out of it. Since then, it'll do over 100mph when without the supercharger 80mph was tops. All this on a 1955 320 which has had nothing more done to it than new lifters about 10 years ago and an Edelbrock 600cfm carb. I didn't re-jet the carb, because I actually never got around to it, and figured 600cfm was plenty before the s/c, so it should be about perfect now.

The moral of the story is, if you want to put that particular supercharger on your engine because you already have it, then I will do anything in my power to help you. If you haven't bought it, then I'd do some searching for an SN60 or a modern supercharger and I'll still help ya. If you want to go twin turbo, then you'd better meet me in a bar somewhere so we can have plenty of time to work out the details!!

Also, as far as I know, there's not a single part of a Studebaker V8 that will fit on a Packard V8. I DO know that the intakes are close enough to fit Cadillac engines of the period that people modify Cadillac dual quad intakes to fit Stude V8's.

Posted on: 2008/9/2 1:28
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Re: would this supercharger fit my clipper 352cid
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Yes, No, Maybe:

Yes, it can be done.
No, you probably shouldn't do it.
Maybe, just for the wow factor and being able to say it came off a "Packard" engine (which everyone knows was a Studebaker.)

The McCulloch is pretty small to make real boost on a 352". Figure you will get 2-3 PSI at most. By the time you fab the brackets and pulleys, get a new carb bonnet for a 4-bbl, re-jet the carb, re-curve the distributor, re-plumb the fuel pump, and finally spend $500 to rebuild the supercharger, you might get another 25-35 horsepower out of it.

thnx, jack vines

Posted on: 2008/9/1 23:45
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Re: would this supercharger fit my clipper 352cid
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Cli55er
i've been meaning to look at that. i bet eric could help me when i came down to it.

Posted on: 2008/9/1 23:41
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
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[url=http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: would this supercharger fit my clipper 352cid
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BigKev
The 57/58's all used Studebaker motors, which are completely different then the Packard V8's. So really none of the motor parts of accessories interchange. You would have to fab up some parts. Take a look at Erics '56 blog.

Posted on: 2008/9/1 23:37
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Re: would this supercharger fit my clipper 352cid
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Cli55er
if i can put a supercharger together on a BMW z3.....well, i am pretty sure i can do this, i just needed to know if it would fit on this 352. does the intake manifold fit etc...basically if the motor share the same intake it would seem that this piece would fit right on top of mine. maybe some mods here in there, alittle tweaking here and there...etc....but theoretically is this possible.

thanks,

Hank

Posted on: 2008/9/1 23:33
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
Maroon/Black 1090-1021
[url=http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: Owners registry
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Eric Boyle
That works for me, does anyone know if there's any chassis #'s on the chassis, I haven't found any in the usual spot, but I know it's a '37 115c.

Posted on: 2008/9/1 22:36
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