O_D, I just checked the VN plate, and indeed there is a place for the dealer's name and city. Only the date is stamped. The plate has been polished so the spaces for these two entries were not obvious. I believe it to be a valid and original plate. Thanks for the page two. What is the date of the dealer listing?

Thanks for the reply on Bob Cutler.

Often wrong, but never confused.

Oops, sorry about that, I forgot page 2. If your patent plate doesn't have a space for the selling dealer and date, I'd suspect a bogus plate has been affixed and the original gone who knows where, so please update us on this when you have a second look.

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O_D and Clipper47, I'll take another look at the VN plate. It will not be the first time that I have been mistaken. All of your suggestions are appreciated. I got the Clark Motor Sales information from a classified ad in one of the newspapers left in the car. O_D, curious that the list of dealerships stops at the "O" lettered cities. I can also check with the local historical association, and see if they have anything like a city directory listing from the time.

My grandfather was a veteran of the CSA, and fought and was wounded at Chickamauga. The Confederate records are scarce and incomplete, making the research task more difficult. My brother and I visited the battle ground site a few years ago, and were most impressed with the monuments and statues. Anyway, I'll not use any more bandwidth on this subject.

Don't know if this will be of any assistance to you, but below is a list of Packard's Michigan dealers; not sure of the date of publication but I believe it is just pre-war.

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Perhaps another case of someone confusing a motor number with a casting or part number? I haven't used Kev's new motor number list, but my data shows that as a motor number for a 2nd Series 2-36 or 2-43 (big 8). The correct Packard part number for a 1935 Eight crankcase is 215244 (same as 11th and 14th series small 8) with engine #s running from 385001 thru 390301, according to an old PAC publication.

Kev, I haven't yet checked your list against my several sources but will do so, and congratulations on a noble effort, its an addition to this site that I'm sure will see much use.

Thanks Owen. VERY good point about the pin seat geometry changing.

Jack. Have u found any difference between Hawk and Packard cam shafts or timing gears ????????

The engine number provided by the person Mal posted for in the original post of this thread does not seem to match Big Kev's newly (and very handy) introduced engine number chart. I am really not sure what engine he has, but surely will not know unless he is able to post more info. A very interesting thread non-the-less.

Jim

Thanks for the additional into. The shield does have the notch for the vacuum lines. I can't remember if it has the screw holes. I will have to go take a look at it. The shield I have came off of a '54 Carib, so it should be pretty compatable dimmension wise with the '54 327 I have.

Still more questions than answers. Lots of detail differences between manuals:

Autolite IBJ4001C Centrifugal advance 32 degrees
Per Studebaker Vacuum advance 22 degrees
Shop Manual Timing 5 degrees BTDC

5660 - AL IBJ-4001C timing 5 degrees BTDC.
vacuum 20 degrees @ 13 Hg.
centrifugal 30 degrees @ 4000 rpm.

Delco 1110865 Centrifugal advance 1-3@450, 7-9@900,9.5-11.5@1600, 11-13@2000
Vacuum advance 7-9" starts, 8.75@14.5-15.25"
Timing 10 degrees BTDC

5680 - DR 1110865 timing 10 degrees BTDC.
vacuum 16 degrees @ 15 Hg.
centrifugal 24 degrees @ 4000 rpm.

thnx, jack vin es