Re: Early Packard Woody Wagons
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I'm still digging through the Coachbuilt website and I've also ordered as much of their reference material as I could find on Amazon and eBay concerning early Packard woodies built by Cantrell and Mifflinburg but I'm expanding my search to other builders as well.
Posted on: 2013/3/28 9:46
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Re: Early Packard Woody Wagons
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I also found these pictures through coacbuilt.com. The first being a prototype built by Mifflinburg Body co. and the second a prototype built by the Baker Rauland Corp.
Posted on: 2013/3/28 9:39
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Re: Early Packard Woody Wagons
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It seams that the first year that Packard offered a woody was 1937 so the '34 would have been a one off. I found these while searching the net:
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Posted on: 2013/3/28 9:25
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Re: Early Packard Woody Wagons
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What are the differences between a shooting brake, depot hack and suburban woody bodies? Woody or woodie is a term used by most people to describe any car with a body made of wood however there are many different styles of woody and they were used for different purposes. A depot hack was a car used to ferry guests from the train depot to their destination. These were built in an age before air transport and highways when people used the train as their main mode of transportation. They typically had two or three rows of bench seats arranged parallel to each other as well as some storage space in back. They didn't have any windows but they did have a roof. The name depot hack is the same as station wagon as train stations were known as depots and wagons were referred to as hacks. As roads and vehicles improved over time people became more and more likely to drive themselves to their destinations and the term depot hack was mostly dropped. Nobody wanted a depot hack, they wanted windows and maybe even a heater and the newer cars were being sold as station wagons and suburbans and if you had a lot of money you wanted an estate wagon. The estate wagon was the same as a station wagon but typically built on a larger luxury chassis, these were used by the wealthy to ferry their friends around. If you had a lot of money and you lived in England then you would call this car a shooting brake. Shooting brakes got there name from the cars use as transportation during hunts. The term is still in use today and it usually refers to exotic make sports cars that have been converted in to station wagons. Here is an excerpt that goes in to a bit more depth on depot hacks from a book I own: http://www.woodyguy.net/evolution.html And here are some modern shooting brakes: http://jalopnik.com/the-callaway-c21-aerowagon-is-the-corvette-stingray-sho-453832292 http://jalopnik.com/5946625/porsche-panamera-sport-turismo-concept-yes-its-a-porsche-wagon And my personal favorite modern wagon: the FF http://jalopnik.com/5739585/ferrari-ff-four-wheel-drive-four-seats-one-fantastic-rear-end
Posted on: 2013/3/28 9:04
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Re: Early Packard Woody Wagons
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The teal and blonde wood combination may have been the original color choice on that '34 but it makes my skin crawl. I had breakfast with Jocko about a month ago and he remembers working on that car with his father back in the 90's.
Posted on: 2013/3/28 8:14
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I have checked both those sources without luck. I have a lot of books on Packards, station wagons, shooting brakes and woodies but Packard books tend to mention only bodies available thru Packard dealers and most books about station wagons concentrate on the cars of the late 30's to the mid 50's. The lowly depot hacks, hucksters and suburbans don't get a lot of press. I have seen some late thirties Packard shooting brakes that are really cool but nothing as early as 1930.
Posted on: 2013/3/27 14:08
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I have scoured the internet and my collection of books on Woodies and have come up short on early Packard woodies. In one of my books there is mention of late twenties and early thirties Packards being outfitted with Cantrell and Mifflinburg depot hack and suburban woody bodies but none show pictures. These cars would not have been in any Packard catalog but would have been offered by the coach builders themselves. The earliest car I've seen with a wood body is a 1926 and it's on this website but the photo is literally a postage stamp size and not much information can be gleaned from it. The next car I've heard of is a '34 which was at once painted teal but is now in black. Both cars are mentioned in this old post:
https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2684 I'd like to build a woody body on the back of my 1930 733 and I'd like to keep it as period looking as possible however with nothing but a few small photos of a '26 to guide me I'm having to guess at a lot of details. Have any of you got pictures of or information on early 30's wood bodied Packards that you could share? Below is a Cantrell suburban bodied Franklin which is the closest thing I've found so far to what I'm looking for. Attach file: (31.55 KB)
Posted on: 2013/3/27 13:04
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It's not on his website but I'll ask him.
Posted on: 2013/3/25 14:35
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Re: 1930 shifter missing part
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Thanks Tom, that looks like it would do the trick. I've already sent John an e-mail but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.
Posted on: 2013/3/25 13:59
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