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The 327 was introduced in 1948 or 1949. I read in Kimes Packard Book that the 327 was reworked in 1951 to replace the 327 of 1949.

It stated it went to 9 main bearings in 1951 and hp went to 155.

Is the 327 of 1951-53 a better motor then the previous 327? (Better = smoother, more delivered hp/noticeable)

Is it a direct bolt in for the earlier 327 applications?

I am knowledgeable about Buicks. Buick had a 248 straight 8 OHV engine in 1948-50. It also had the 322 OHV straight 8 from 1946 to 1952. In 1952, they put a four barrel carb on the 322.

In 1951 Buick put out a 263 to replace the 248. The horsepower race was on. Cars became heavier.

I never thought about it much until I decided to concentrate on Packard but the 327 straight 8 exceeds the cubic inch displacement of my 1949 Chrysler 323 and Buick's 322 yet is seen as a setback from the 356.

Is the 9 main bearing 327 a derivative of the 356 or an all new design?

The 288, while seen as a "junior" engine, exceeded displacement of Buick's 248 and 263. Chrysler's mid line Windsor used a 250 cid.

Cadillac used the 346 cid V8 (FLathead) replacing it with the 331 (I think) OHV V8. Chrysler's hemi V8 was 331.

Posted on: 2013/6/27 21:53
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Re: Looked at These Post War Projects Today
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G'day Bryan,
As you're a stalwart on the AACA Website, I have followed many of your threads. Not the least being this recent one, and gladly you to PackardInfo.

And now you're here, I invite you to include your 22nd series Custom 8 Sedan, as well as any of the farm Packards if you should purchase them, in the Packard Owner's Registry here on PackardInfo!

Thanks.

My 22nd series Custom 8 is stored on an acreage and I don't have the numbers. It is a rough project vehicle slated to go to a very professional restorer. I will grab the numbers when I get it relocated to my garage. I need to get a title.

I had some issues with one of the clubs. I had 9 cars. Sold all but 3. I bought a 72 Mercedes 450 SL convertible my daughter and I are restoring for her 1st car, and that left a very solid 49 Chrysler New Yorker club coupe and my Packard. I decided to put both on ebay and which ever one sold, I would buy another one of the make that did not sell and focus on that make.

Since the Chrysler is so much better, I figured I would soon be a Packard collector.

I sold all my titled cars, some nice originals that ran and drove and some titled projects. The 2 cars not running and without titles are not selling.

The problem is I don't want to give my cars away. We'll see. It would make more sense to keep both of these cars but I like the concept of collecting more then 1 of a make and joining a club supporting that make. I'm not much of a club joiner, I've never toured with anyone because I never consistently had nice cars.

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Posted on: 2013/6/23 8:42
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Re: Looked at These Post War Projects Today
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Focus turns to the 1950 Super Deluxe. I did some more research on this website. It has the same wheelbase as the Custom 8, the same grille and rear treatment and has the 327.

I wish I would have taken a closer look around it. These cars were in a cow pasture with high weeds and thistles. It was 91 and humid so I wore shorts and a T.

All the benefits of a Custom 8 without the hard to duplicate interior.

Posted on: 2013/6/23 8:23
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Re: Looked at These Post War Projects Today
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Yes I have decided not to get involved in the 21st series Clipper but it's rare when a 356 equipped Super Clipper comes up for sale in your backyard.

These projects are virtually non existent. They are either like this and unrestorable or they are much more.

This car was a very interesting and viable project when parked. The kids smashed out the windows at some point. It sank into the ground. 20 years ago this would have been a nice one to restore.

Posted on: 2013/6/23 8:16
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Re: Looked at These Post War Projects Today
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Posted on: 2013/6/22 21:44
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Re: Looked at These Post War Projects Today
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More photos.

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Posted on: 2013/6/22 20:14
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More Photos.

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Posted on: 2013/6/22 20:11
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Posted on: 2013/6/22 20:08
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I went to look at the 21st series Super. I also looked at a 1950 Super? or whatever Packard called the non custom eggcrate grilled cars. Finally they had a 51-52 ambulance.

This farm had at least 50 cars. All of the cars are bad. I won't pass judgment on the sellers simply dumping the cars whereever in his cow pastures. They were his cars.

The original owner has passed away. This is an Iowa Century Farm, in poor shape. I would bet 99% of the cars will be crushed. One of the 3 guys present when I was there stated all cars will be priced high and if no bidders, then they will be crushed no problem.

I own a 22nd series Custom 8 sedan and a 49 Chrysler New Yorker club coupe. I am 49. My thinking was purchase the Super Clipper, sell the New Yorker (which is in infinitely better condition) and restore the 21st series Super Clipper and the 22nd series Custom 8 and be done with the restoration faze of the hobby.

Projections would be 6 years for each car combined so by the time I was 55 years old the 2 Packards would be done and I would then enjoy them over the next 20 years until I was 75 or so. Maybe a tad longer. Tours, shows, Packard Club stuff. Sunday drives.

I would like to save the 23rd series with the eggcrate grille too but 3 cars is pushing it and I want some styling period seperation. The 1950 Packard is in better shape then the Super Clipper.

I knew the Super Clipper would be bad but I had to go look at it to determine if the seats and door panels had enough pattern left to use, and they do. Dash is complete. RED pedal for clutch?

Note rust out in front of front fenders and some in back. These floor pans are likely junk, having sat in the ground for 10 + years. My offer would be $500, as crusher price is likely $350.

If anyone thinks I can part the 1950 out for a reasonable amount, I would buy that to part out. I could use the grille and surrounds. The dash looked good. I suspect the engine is in there. I would take this car as a 1-2 punch with my 22nd series Custom 8 but like I said I would rather not have 2 of the same bodystyle.

If anyone wants the 1950 or the ambulance let me know but I don't anyone doing such intensive projects anymore.

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Posted on: 2013/6/22 20:03
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