Thanks for your quick reply. My Packard is in concours condition and has just won the trophy for Classic Car of the Year at the NEC Classic Motor Show held in Birmingham, UK.

Here is a link:https://www.facebook.com/ClassicAmericanMag/photos/pb.1207261249415020.-2207520000.1416302165./1533285026812639/?type=1&theater

Is there a more up to date valuation tool out there. All the ones I have tried in the UK do not include Packard. Thanks.

Does anyone know where to find a valuation for a 1940 Packard 120 deluxe club coupe? thanks.

Many thanks. I'll give it a go. Looks like canvass.
-Thom

Thanks to all who have replied. It is always good to broaden my Packard knowledge. Mine is a 1940 120 Deluxe Club Coupe and indeed it does have a bumper jack, by alas no bag. I am in the UK, so unlikely to find one easily. If anybody has one I would be interested. And yes it is just for show, I wouldn't even think about using it.

Does anyone have a picture of the correct location of the jack in the trunk of a 1940 club coupe? I just painted the inside of my trunk and don't want the jack rattling around. Thanks.

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Ian, thanks for that. It appears that the format of the plate had changed from '37 to '40. Although mine is a repro, I think that the patent numbers as displayed are correct for a 1940 plate.

The VN on my plate is actually a fictional engine number. It was shown on the Seattle tile and then repeated on the Oregon title and then again on the UK title.

I have given up on trying to trace the real VN for my car. It would have been DE 1395-????. However, I was successful in locating and getting the correct engine number on my car changed on my UK registration document.

Seems these numbers are rather elusive as the wrong engine number is stamped on my repro patent plate. How this ever happened is a mystery to the two previous owners and I get no reply from the owner before that would be the only one to have ever seen the original number.

Anyhow I am pleased to see you original plate. Looks good. Consider yourself lucky!

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Thanks for the TPN pictures. Mine does not have such a plate. Only the reproduction Patent plate.

Perhaps you could explain to me the nomenclature of the engine block number on my car? It is: C307996A. This is on my 1940 Packard 120 Club Coupe. I was told C did indicate a 120 engine, but I don't know what the A indicates. Thanks.

Looking through the registry, I see that there is a 120 club coupe with VIN 1395-5039. therefore 5039 less 2001 would mean that there were at least 3,038 of the 120 bodies built. Correct?

I think I now have a better understanding off the various identification numbers on my 1940 Packard 120 Club Coupe.

The attachment shows the limit of my knowledge of what I believe is correct. The date and number on the engine block lower passenger side are clear. The date was changed as engines were produced but the number below the date would always be the same for a particular type of engine.

The elusive engine block number is virtually hidden by the ignition coil. This is the number that many states used for registration rather than the actual VIN which in my case is missing but would have been 1395-XXXX. My car is a Deluxe Club Coupe, so I am told because it has all of the options and rear opera or jump seats. That being the case, would the original VN number have been 1395DE-XXXX?

I have been told that my engine is indeed the original however, I have no information as of yet as to why the number on my repro patent plate does not agree with the engine number.

To complicate the issue further, the number from the repro patent plate was used to register my car in the UK by the previous owner. I will need to get the straightened out with both the Department of Motor Vehicle Licensing Authority and my insurance company. Likely to be a bureaucratic challenge!

Finally, the theft proof number is not present on the firewall on the engine side. I have been told that this is not so unusual and that many of the 1940 cars did not have a theft proof number and that Packard kept no record of the theft proof number that they assigned to cars.

That is the full extent of my short education on the learning curve of Packard numbers. I hope that I now have it right! Please let me know if I have not! Thanks.

-Thom

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Eureka! This looks to be it. Can't tell from the pic what the number is other than clearly begins with a C. Strange that I missed this when looking at the engine today. Must be a heavy coat of paint on top. Now if I can uncover it, I just need to see if it really does agree with the number on the patent plate which is the number that was used for the UK registration!

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