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Re: Twin Ultramatic Transmission oil pan bolts
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I just wanted to send a thank you and follow up message. My problem turned out to be the oil pan being overtightened and warped. To give you a little bit of a back story. I bought the car January 2022. I took it to an "old car mechanic" in upstate New York. Someone recommended him, and he had a DeSoto sitting out side, so I figured how bad could he be... He replaced the oil pan gasket, and complained that transmission fluid was coming out of the screw holes. He said that he fixed with RTV.
Last year I moved to Finland, and this time I decided to give it a shot myself. I removed the transmission oil pan. While cleaning the pan, I found multiple colors of sealers and gaskets. All the bolts and bolt holes were also covered in RTV. With a straight edge, I could see that the first edge of the pan was relatively straight, however the metal around the bolt holes were all warped. I ended up putting a few blocks of wood for support, and using a hammer and a large round bolt to tap all the bolt holes back down. After cleaning all the bolts and bolt holes, I put in a new cork gasket. I didn't use any RTV, just a bit of vaseline on the gasket, and hand tightened the pan. After a few weeks of driving, the transmission pan has held well. I still have a ton of leaks to fix, but at least the big one is now done.
Oh, and for the loose bolt. Someone had drilled out one of the bolts through the transmission, and replaced it with a longer bolt and nut on the other end. For now I just put it back in since the gasket works.

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Posted on: 2023/5/15 5:28
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Re: Twin Ultramatic Transmission oil pan bolts
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Thank you Howard and Leeedy for the excellent information and advice. This is such an amazing forum and a great group of people. I really appreciate it.

Posted on: 2023/4/11 18:59
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Twin Ultramatic Transmission oil pan bolts
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jgrohn
Hello,
I have a 1956 Patrician. I had the transmission oil pan gasket replaced because it was leaking, however the leak continues. The mechanic said that someone has over tightened the bolts, so at least some of them are stripped, and no longer hold. He also said that oil was coming out directly from under the bolts.

It sounds like I will need to retap the bolt holes, but before doing that I was thinking that maybe there is some thread left farther in the bolt hole. Any chance that longer bolts would be able to hold the transmission oil plan in place? I do not have access to the car right now, so I am not able to access the bolts themselves. Does anyone know what the specs are for the bolts that come from the factory?

Thanks!
John

Posted on: 2023/4/11 6:29
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Re: 1956 Patrician trunk hinge
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Thanks for all the help. I was able to weld the pin onto the backing plate, and the hinge works well again.

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Posted on: 2023/2/7 7:20
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Re: 1956 Patrician trunk hinge
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Thanks for the info. I moved to Finland last summer, so I will probably try to create a temporary fix for now, and get a replacement when visiting the US.

Posted on: 2023/1/26 13:34
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Re: White -56 Executive
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Nice work!

Posted on: 2023/1/25 5:27
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1956 Patrician trunk hinge
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Hi,
One of the pieces fell off the trunk hinge on my 1956 Patrician. It looks like there is a pin that goes through a bracket (that con move freely) which then goes through a backing plate that it is pressed into. The issue is that over time, the hole in the backing plate has become bigger, and the pin pops out. Now that the hole is too big, what is the best way to secure it? I have tried with a snap ring, and thought about replacing the pin with a bolt and nut, but I don't think that is the right solution. It seems like what is needed is to secure the pin to the backing plate. Would jb-weld work for this? Or how about fixing it by spot welding the pin to the plate? The bracket needs to be able to move freely. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,

John

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Posted on: 2023/1/25 5:23
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Re: OCR
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I just wanted to wrap things up here. If anyone is interested in OCR versions of the 1955-56 documentation, they are available at my original drop box link:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f9x3shj2137g2mm/AAAdFOU_5IEusrrK_5W23lCsa?dl=0

They are generated files, and so the handwritten parts are not 100% correct, but they are good enough for me.

At this point, I am not planning on running the conversion on other files. However, if there is a specific set of files, that someone would like me to run the OCR on, feel free to get in touch with me.

Posted on: 2022/8/29 4:58
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Re: OCR
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I tried compressing some of the generated PDFs with little success. If others are interested in giving it a try, here is a link with some sample generated files:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f9x3shj2137g2mm/AAAdFOU_5IEusrrK_5W23lCsa?dl=0

Posted on: 2022/8/24 5:03
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OCR
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Most of the documents that are posted in the literature archive are pdf images that someone has scanned. The documents have been very useful, and a big thanks to everyone who has contributed to them. The one thing that I wished I could do is search through the manuals on my computer electronically.

For example, I would like to be able to search all the documents and find any documents including a keyword. Once finding the document I would like to open the file and have it highlight text showing my search word. As an example I have two screenshots searching the word "steering".

I was able to make that work for documents that are most relevant to me by downloading the documents and running them through an OCR (Optical character recognition) converter. The converter reads in a pdf file, and generates a new pdf file, which is just like the original, but includes the text information along with it. The new set of pdf files, is larger than the original, however once the file has been converted, it is searchable on any computer.

In order to do this, I ended up buying a license for Cisdem converter. Even though the OCR might not be perfect, I have been very impressed with how well the search is working on the files. The down side to this is that the resulting pdf files are larger than the originals. For example, the directory "1955-1956 Parts and Accessories List" is 41.5Mb before conversion, and 293.2Mb after the conversion.

So here are some questions. Would other forum users find it useful to be able to search the pdf documents? Should I upload the documents that I have already converted to some shared location? Would it make sense to run the conversion on the whole literature archive? I know there are costs associated with hosting data on the web, any thoughts?

Thanks,

John

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Posted on: 2022/8/23 4:23
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