That 1941 120 in Wallingford, CT is near where I live and has been for sale for years. I was over the seller's house a number of years ago to look at another Packard he was selling. My impression was that he is never anxious to sell anything, so he is pretty hard to negotiate with. You pay what he is asking or no deal. He had several other cars for sale when I was there. Saw him again about a year ago when he stopped by to talk to me about my '39 Six at a local show and mentioned that he was selling a '41 120. I was going to go look at that '41 but decided not to bother. Judging from the photos, it is not worth what he is asking. I see quite a bit of rust and the trunk lid is smashed in. Car needs pretty much everything. This is typical of what he has for sale. The Packard I saw at his home the time I was there was a '35 or '36 120 Club Sedan and it was even worse than this '41. Think he wanted something like $10K for it. Other cars I saw for sale were stored outside and were pretty rough. Recall a '41 Olds Coupe that was pretty trashed. This guy continually buys project cars and then tries to flip them.

Just posted today. Probably the rustiest Packard I have ever seen someone trying to sell. Almost nothing useable left and I'm not sure what anyone could do with this. Maybe use it as a lawn ornament? It is a 1938 120 Coupe. Sad. I really like these cars. Seller wants $500. It is located in South Carolina.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/883171427170697/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A93bf7af1-efd2-4d01-a4dc-74d50b2495d3

There is a very nice one on Facebook Marketplace right now. It is a 1936 120 Business Coupe. It is fully restored, an AACA National Award winner and it is not cheap ($35K). It is located in Pennsylvania. Here is a link to the posting in case you are interested. But I do not think you would be able to restore one this nice for amount of money being asked.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1191092188559198/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A8c0acd2c-2690-4c42-9c88-f11a39944bde

Saw these two new postings today:

1956 Caribbean Hardtop. Partially completed restoration, body work and paint done, but drivers side door has some damage. Interior and some reassembly needed. Asking $12,500. Michigan:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1565755334005698/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A8c0acd2c-2690-4c42-9c88-f11a39944bde

1935 120 Sedan. Unrestored and partially disassembled. Body looks reasonably good, certainly restorable. Motor frozen. Appears some body work has been done. Asking $3,500. Ohio:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/849764493259820/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A8c0acd2c-2690-4c42-9c88-f11a39944bde

1955 400. Partially completed restoration. Body in primer with all trim removed and all glass out. Looks complete. Asking $8,500. Lansing, MI:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1009050590719235/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A8c0acd2c-2690-4c42-9c88-f11a39944bde

Recently saw this photo posted on Facebook and found it interesting. Note the 1953 Clipper. Here is the caption which accompanied the photo:

In the 1950s, the New York Tunnel Police patrolled the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels using specialized miniature cars. These electric, bi-directional cars, known as "catwalk cars," were first tested in the Holland Tunnel under the Hudson River in 1954. Prior to their introduction, six Port Authority Police Department officers handled traffic problems by walking the 2.5-foot-wide catwalks. The new three-horsepower electric cars allowed for more efficient patrols, reducing the required staff to four officers and enabling speeds of up to 12 mph.

The Holland Tunnel cars featured a canopy design, while the Lincoln Tunnel used a different model hooked to a wall rail with sheet-metal sides. These compact vehicles were essential for navigating the tight spaces of the tunnels and were not suitable for larger officers. Despite their modest power, these carts remained in service until the last one was decommissioned in 2011.

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tsherry. Totally agree. Notice that the ID decal on the firewall is still intact. Also, it has a nice accessory luggage rack. For only $7K, I don't see how you could go wrong with this one. Hope someone on this site grabs it.

Few more new FB postings:

1938 Six Touring Sedan. Exceptionally well-preserved original car. Seller states 58K original miles. Runs well. Really like this one. Texas:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1122412465524005/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks

1946 or 1947 Clipper. Not sure of exact model, but it is one of the less expensive ones. Solid unrestored, not running. Looks complete. Texas:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1171358927219965/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ad2a066a4-5da4-46ef-917a-f614c04bf745

1951 300 Sedan. Rusty floors, not running, but potentially restorable. Sheet metal except for the floors looks exceptionally straight and don't see any rust through on body. Asking $1,500 Texas:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7900254736736014?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ad2a066a4-5da4-46ef-917a-f614c04bf745

1956 Patrician. Solid body, front fenders look exceptional. Runs, much recent mechanical work. Needs cosmetics but looks like an easy project. Asking $4,500. Pennsylvania

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1416941229006290/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A841464b0-414b-4f21-b118-02407b5c892c

1955 Patrician. Abandoned restoration but looks very close to completion. Has been repainted. Nice original interior. Bumpers still need to be rechromed. Think this one could be finished with minimal effort. Asking $5K. Missouri:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2511718755687101/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A437ee63b-992b-437e-a812-1c2dce26cdfe

1958 Hardtop. Ad has it listed as a Hawk, but it is not. Fully restored car, looks great. Asking $21K. Charlotte, NC:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1171496410752775/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A7c4baf21-0d20-42ca-a2f5-60425552dc72

FirstEliminator. Congratulations on purchasing that 160. Body looks very solid on this one, though obviously, the car will require a full restoration. But you do have the basis of a really great car. I always say that if you have good sheet metal, you have something, even if the car needs a lot of work. But if the body is bad, you really don't have much at all. I have seen a number of "restored" cars that were nothing more than rolling Bondo buckets. Once, I drove over five hours to Southern NJ to look at a 1940 110 Convertible Coupe billed as a fully restored car needing only a top and a few other small items. When I got there, I found a car that was literally more body filler than body. Though it did have a nice paint job and a well-done interior in red leather, the car seemed to be made almost entirely of Bondo. Fenders were several inches thick in spots. I even detected excessive body filler on the upper windshield pillars. The real killer was when I asked to see the top assembly which was not on the car. Remember that the seller told me that it basically only needed a top. He took me into his garage and showed me a box of rusty, twisted bits of metal which looked like they had gone down with the Titanic. Much of it was corroded to the point of being unusable and several components were missing to boot. I got in my car and left at that point. Never forgot that trip. It involved an overnight stay in the worst motel I ever stayed in in my life. The place was so dirty, that it should have been condemned. Problem was that there was a major rock concert going on in the area that weekend and just about all of the available rooms were booked.

The guy with the 120 sounded like a scammer, so you did well to steer clear of him. Anyone who asks for an upfront deposit to hold a car for you is potential scammer in my book. A legitimate hobbyist would never do this. Not surprised that he grossly misrepresented the condition of the car. You should post some pictures of this mess to warn others to stay away. This car sounds like it may not even be restorable. Rust is almost always much worse than it looks on the surface.

Good luck on your project. Looking forward to seeing photos as work progresses.

Few new ones in my area:

1955 Patrician. Rough unrestored, ad states car has not run in about 20 years. Appears complete. Asking 3K. Worcester, MA.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8375335232479673/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A76e1ca4d-9dc8-4b25-aaa3-f8f75340bf34

1936 120 Touring Sedan. Seller states it is a '38, but pretty sure it is a '36. Very rough, floors bad, probably just a parts car at this point. Has lichens growing on it, so obviously has been outside for some time. Roxbury, NY:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1018423073212669/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A76e1ca4d-9dc8-4b25-aaa3-f8f75340bf34

1931 833 Sedan. Beautifully preserved original car. Even looks like paint may be original. Seller states car has 29K original miles. Runs great. Asking $40K. Massapequa, NY:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/907575711128610/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A76e1ca4d-9dc8-4b25-aaa3-f8f75340bf34

And this one just posted from Wisconsin:

1952 200 Convertible. Very straight and solid original, unrestored. Car has been in storage for past 25 years. Looks like a great project. Part of an estate sale, seller has other cars. See what looks like 1955 Patrician parts in one corner of a large warehouse.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/526423489716748/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ab203eaa0-0397-44c4-8650-e91cac60a9b3

Hi. It appears that no one has responded to your inquiry, so I will take a stab at it. The Packard Automobile Classics website (www.packardclub.org) has a reference section which, among other things, has the correct factory paint codes going back to 1929. Unfortunately, they only have color chips going back to 1935. I have attached a copy of the 1929 paint chart from their website as well as a photo of an authentically painted 1929 Packard 626 Sedan that I found on the internet.

Based on this information, it does not appear that your car is painted in a correct color scheme for 1929. The colors used do not appear to match any of the standard factory colors for that year. Unfortunately, this is not uncommon, particularly with older restorations. In the past it was common practice for restorers to paint antique cars in colors contemporary to the time the car was being restored as that what was readily available. Authenticity wasn't as big a concern as it is today. Then there was the widespread belief that you could custom order a Packard in any color you wished. While technically true, Packard would not have been able to use colors which simply did not exist at the time, for example, metallic paint prior to the early 1930's. Also, some people tried to paint their cars by copying color schemes from period advertisements. This is usually not a good idea as during the classic era, original artwork was used to portray the cars instead of photographs and the artwork was generally an artist's interpretation. The artwork accompanying the ads would often include features not actually available from the manufacturer, such as paint schemes.

It is also worth noting that the chassis parts were standardly painted black in those days. This included the fenders, chassis aprons, frame and running gear. My understanding is that the chassis parts could be painted to match the body at extra cost. So, it would be an option. Also, wheels should match the lower body color.

Hope this helps

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