Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Okay, like most of you, I’m convinced that the issue is fuel getting too hot in the fuel line between the fuel pump and carburetor after the car is shutoff. This is causing a rise in pressure, which then pushes fuel into the carburetor.
I rerouted my fuel line today and I don’t think I can route in further away form the manifold at this point. Unfortunately, this didn’t seem to help. I’m open to more ideas. Has anyone used something like this to provide additional insulation? https://www.cabletiesandmore.com/thermashield-t6-wrap?pid=4797&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw26KxBhBDEiwAu6KXt-6-b96cJAPL4Q54RXDtsd3gjR3jKezK6buXfnZI65SIQ2VviHABCBoCEgkQAvD_BwE Here are a couple of pictures of the new routing.
Posted on: 4/24 19:54
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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I just came across this photo of another ‘37 120. It also has the Stromberg carburetor and you can see the inlet and 90 degree fitting is the same as what I have.
What is different is that the fuel line is routed to immediately turn away from the exhaust manifold. Mine, currently is not routed like that. I’ll try re-routing like this…
Posted on: 4/24 10:38
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Thanks for all the thoughts/input. It gives me a couple items to try. I’ll let you know if the longer/more sweeping fuel line and adding a filter resolves the issue.
Posted on: 4/24 10:30
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I believe this is what is happening to an extent. It is not boiling in the carburetor. I have been able to observe that directly and know that is not happening. It likely is in the fuel line between the pump and carburetor. However, it is not overflowing to the extent of flooding leading to hard starting. It starts great every time. Again, the carburetor is the correct carburetor and the inlet is where Packard designed it. I will likely try a new and longer line front he pump to the carburetor so that I can make a more sweeping route. I may also add a glass bowl fuel filter as Kev suggested.
Posted on: 4/24 10:29
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It is the correct and original carburetor…Stromberg EE-14
Posted on: 4/24 10:24
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It is the correct and original carburetor, Stromberg EE-14. I currently have a right angle fitting at the carburetor. It did not when I started. I don’t believe there were heat shields at the carburetor for ‘37
Posted on: 4/24 10:23
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Thanks, Mal and Kev.
Mal - I do have the heat shield, but perhaps not enough of an arc of the fuel line routing. I’m interested in the fuel filter as I can see how that could help this situation. Can you provide some details? Like this? https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Glass-Bowl-Fuel-Filter,273099.html
Posted on: 4/23 22:53
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When the pump was just re-built and re-installed, a heat shield was installed that was previously not there. Also, the line was routed much better to be significantly farther away from the exhaust manifold. And, we split a rubber hose and put it over the line as additional insulation. That’s all part of what is so puzzling.
This is how it was previously.
Posted on: 4/23 21:01
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The heat riser is totally out of commission, but I’m confident that it is in the open position. I do have an insulator between the manifold and carburetor. Again, the fuel coming out is not hot. And, when it starts happening is when fuel started dripping into the barrels.
For the float valve….if it was not sealing properly, wouldn’t I have the issue all the time or at least as soon as I shut off the car? I’m truly asking, as I don’t know. It seems to me that after I shut off the car, pressure in the line continues to build until the float valve is forced open partially to relieve the pressure. If that is the case, wouldn’t that mean the valve is okay?
Posted on: 4/23 20:19
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