Great explanation and HOW TO

Thanks for taking the time and having the patience to complete.


Bill
NPM Warren, Ohio

We've used the POR-15 gas tank sealer kit many times and always had good results.
The manufacturer's literature says that the sealer (last step of the process) will seal any small leak.

Not sure if we had any leaks to begin with. Our tanks are all rusty and corroded inside from old stale gas.
We never had a leak after the cleaning.


Good Luck,

Bill

The indent spring and the 2 washers that are on either side of the spring were totally jammed up with crud. After flushing the tumbler with PD Blaster and Silicone spray repeatedly, I got some movement in the tumbler and finally was able to get it to release. Doesn't appear that anything is broken.
There were rivers of crud flowing down and onto the trunk lid. One of our volunteers kept wiping the lid to avoid paint stains.
We then applied pressure on the trunk lid where the slides are located. While spraying and rinsing the tumbler hole repeatedly, what looked like a solid mass of crud soon became 2 special flat washers and a spring. Not sure why the handle just spun before, but I think the flat washers weren't engaging into the mechanism.

For now, I chose to NOT reinstall the tumbler. While researching a solution, I looked at other late 30's-early 40's cars in our collection. Just about all of them have had the tumblers removed at some point prior to arriving at the museum. This problem isn't a new one - for sure.
We cleaned and sprayed each of the release sliders as well as the handle mechanism and all is good.

Interesting to note, the 1940 Packard 110 has a similar setup but is not nearly as beefy as the V12 setup. Each sliding latch on the V12 is housed in a 3" square tube with supports attached to the trunk lid.

I made a drawing for reassembly and took plenty of photos to add to our museum book (I call it our bible) that details each car and repairs and/or maintenance performed.

Bill

GOOD NEWS TO REPORT
With the help of Dan Mark and using the Apple Technology FACETIME, we were able to chat back and forth as well as share real time images. I kept following Dan's guidance and he helped us get the lock cylinder removed and finally the trunk open. Ain't technology grand when it works.
Dan also had a few friends give suggestions while we were Facetime connecting.And this all worked while Dan was in KC and I was in Warren, Ohio.

The NPM can't thank the members of this Packard Forum enough for the help.

Stay tuned, because I'm sure there will be more questions as we attempt to revive more of our beautiful Packards.












Thanks for listening,

Bill
National Packard Museum
Warren, Ohio

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YES, this appears to be the same as our 39.
We've looked at the different options and I'm running out of non-destructive ideas.

We can't pull the tumblers on the lock because inserting a paper clip does not release the tumblers. If I need to find a GOOD locksmith, I can search that out.
We can't find any mounting bolts for the lock assembly not can we located mounting bolts for the back seat. Looks like the two top bolts for the seat were installed from the trunk. Not sure if removing the seat would actually give us access to the trunk lock mechanism either.

There are parts stored in the trunk that we need to retrieve.
I feel that there is a roll pin (or something similar) on the trunk handle that has sheared.

Any ideas from anyone?

Thanks much for the assistance.

Bill

National Packard Museum
Warren, Ohio

Ok, I've got some answers but of course more questions.

The underside of the 39 does not show any bolts or mounting mechanism.





After removing the seat, there are 4 bolts exposed.





After removing those 4 bolts, the seat back is still held in place securely somewhere on the top section near the flip down armrest.
We tried pulling up, down and to the front on the seat back and it won't budge.
We look at our 1940 110 series car and saw how that seat back was held in place. Doesn't seem to be similar.
Can't see how to properly remove the armrest fabric if in fact there are more fasteners there. Using a mirror, we could see the pointed end of bolts or screws behind the seat, up high. But would need trunk access to get to them.





Any ideas?

Thanks

Bill
NPM Warren, Ohio

I'll check on Friday.
We just had the gas tank out for cleaning and sealing. Hope we don't have to pull the tank again.


Thanks
Bill

We were successful in getting our 39 V12 back to running condition last week.
We reconditioned the fuel system by rebuilding the Stromberg Carb, new fuel lines and cleaned and sealed the tank.
The old beauty runs smoothly now but the trunk will not open.
Before we start removing the rear seat to hopefully gain access to the lock, I’m looking for any suggestions and warnings.

Prior to the today, I was able to lock and unlock the truck handle and we were able to open and close the trunk easily.
Now the handle just spins and no difference if the lock is engaged or not.

Thanks in advance,
Bill
NPM Warren, Ohio

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Update: She runs great !!!
After installing new gaskets and an extra spark plug gasket, I'm happy yo report she runs great. It idled and accelerated smoothly from initial startup.
Thanks for the pointers and tech info. Now we just have to get the brakes to work like they should and clean out the fuel tank. YUCK!
That's a project for after the New Year.

thanks again for all who listened and to those who gave us info to make her run again.

Bill
NPM, Warren, Ohio

We removed the inner fender and front right wheel to give us better access to the engine.
We sprayed the valve guide area with sea foam and followed up with marvel mystery oil soak. After letting everything set for the Thanksgiving weekend, well get back to it next week and check tappet clearance and adjust.

Going to order a new gasket set and reinstall everything to see how it runs if all is good.
Adding spark plug washers too.


thanks for all the guidance and good vibes.


Bill